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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT), ac@keech.net (Auld Chiel)
wrote:

>TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>
>One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>
>from:
>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>
>More:
>https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>
>Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------
>
>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>awash in Uranium.

Isn't THAT an interesting article.

The Frog



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."

 --Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.

The Frog wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT), ac@keech.net (Auld Chiel)
> wrote:
> 
> >TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the
> >US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
> >a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
> >"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
> >
> >One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
> >quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
> >unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground
> >near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
> >
> >from:
> >http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
> >
> >More:
> >https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
> >
> >Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
> >http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
> >
> >   -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> >same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> >awash in Uranium.
> 
> Isn't THAT an interesting article.
> 
> The Frog
<snip>

Well, no, because Greenpeace is talking about depleted
uranium, from which bomb grade material has already been
extracted, and leftovers from Iraq's previous nuclear
effort, which was nipped in the bud by Israel.

-- 

John Starrett

"It does not require a majority to prevail, 
but rather an irate, tireless minority keen 
to set brush fires in people's minds."   

Samuel Adams

Auld Chiel wrote:
> TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
> US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
> a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
> "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
> 
> One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
> quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
> unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
> near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
> 
> from:
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
> 
> More:
> https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
> 
> Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
> http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
> 
>    -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> awash in Uranium.
> 

Yellowcake too.

Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more* 
yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles, 
doesn't it?

-- 
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Dana Dare

ac@keech.net (Auld Chiel) wrote in news:iIiy3110Wc4K3fg887U4@keech.net:

> TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
> US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
> a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
> "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
> 
> One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
> quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
> unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
> near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
> 
> from:
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
> 
> More:
> https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45
> &news_id=1115 
> 
> Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
> http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
> 
>    -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> awash in Uranium.
> 

You're talking about radioactive waste. Shows they had radioactive 
substances. But what happened to them?

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:20:13 -0600, John Starrett
<jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:

>The Frog wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT), ac@keech.net (Auld Chiel)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the
>> >US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>> >a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>> >"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>> >
>> >One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>> >quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>> >unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground
>> >near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>> >
>> >from:
>> >http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>> >
>> >More:
>> >https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>> >
>> >Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>> >http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>> >
>> >   -------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>> >same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>> >awash in Uranium.
>> 
>> Isn't THAT an interesting article.
>> 
>> The Frog
><snip>
>
>Well, no, because Greenpeace is talking about depleted
>uranium, from which bomb grade material has already been
>extracted,

Doh!!!

Where is it?

> and leftovers from Iraq's previous nuclear
>effort, which was nipped in the bud by Israel.
 
Doh!!!

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:28:43 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
wrote:

>Auld Chiel wrote:
>> TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>> US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>> a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>> "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>> 
>> One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>> quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>> unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>> near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>> 
>> from:
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>> 
>> More:
>> https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>> 
>> Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>> http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>> 
>>    -------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>> same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>> awash in Uranium.
>> 
>
>Yellowcake too.
>
>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more* 
>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles, 
>doesn't it?

Um no, see they had some, wanted more, etc.

Got it?

Gooood...

On 16 Jul 2003 19:03:35 GMT, AA <AA@yahoo.com> wrote:

>ac@keech.net (Auld Chiel) wrote in news:iIiy3110Wc4K3fg887U4@keech.net:
>
>> TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>> US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>> a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>> "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>> 
>> One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>> quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>> unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>> near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>> 
>> from:
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>> 
>> More:
>> https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45
>> &news_id=1115 
>> 
>> Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>> http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>> 
>>    -------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>> same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>> awash in Uranium.
>> 
>
>You're talking about radioactive waste. Shows they had radioactive 
>substances. But what happened to them?

Doh!!!

Syria?

Al Qaida?

Lebanon?

Iran?

Doh!!!!

Uncle Samuel wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:20:13 -0600, John Starrett
> <jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:
<snip>
> >Well, no, because Greenpeace is talking about depleted
> >uranium, from which bomb grade material has already been
> >extracted,
> 
> Doh!!!
> 
> Where is it?

In the slugs from US anti tank munitions.

> > and leftovers from Iraq's previous nuclear
> >effort, which was nipped in the bud by Israel.
> 
> Doh!!!


-- 

John Starrett

"It does not require a majority to prevail, 
but rather an irate, tireless minority keen 
to set brush fires in people's minds."   

Samuel Adams

Uncle Samuel wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:28:43 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Auld Chiel wrote:
>>
>>>TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>>>US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>>>a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>>>"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>>>
>>>One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>>>quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>>>unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>>>near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>>>
>>>from:
>>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>>>
>>>More:
>>>https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>>>
>>>Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>>>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>>>
>>>   -------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>awash in Uranium.
>>>
>>
>>Yellowcake too.
>>
>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more* 
>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles, 
>>doesn't it?
> 
> 
> Um no, see they had some, wanted more, etc.
> 
> Got it?
> 
> Gooood...
> 

Ummmm... nope. I guess I'm just dense. ;-)

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Dana Dare

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:45:23 -0600, John Starrett
<jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:

>Uncle Samuel wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:20:13 -0600, John Starrett
>> <jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:
><snip>
>> >Well, no, because Greenpeace is talking about depleted
>> >uranium, from which bomb grade material has already been
>> >extracted,
>> 
>> Doh!!!
>> 
>> Where is it?
>
>In the slugs from US anti tank munitions.

Oh, not in those barrels the rag-heads were drinking out of?

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:57:44 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
wrote:

>Uncle Samuel wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:28:43 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>Auld Chiel wrote:
>>>
>>>>TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>>>>US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>>>>a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>>>>"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>>>>
>>>>One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>>>>quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>>>>unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>>>>near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>>>>
>>>>from:
>>>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>>>>
>>>>More:
>>>>https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>>>>
>>>>Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>>>>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>>>>
>>>>   -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>>awash in Uranium.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yellowcake too.
>>>
>>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more* 
>>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles, 
>>>doesn't it?
>> 
>> 
>> Um no, see they had some, wanted more, etc.
>> 
>> Got it?
>> 
>> Gooood...
>> 
>
>Ummmm... nope. I guess I'm just dense. ;-)
 
I guess, don't let it git ya down though...

Uncle Samuel wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:45:23 -0600, John Starrett
> <jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:
> 
> >Uncle Samuel wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:20:13 -0600, John Starrett
> >> <jstarret@carbon.cudenver.edu> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> >Well, no, because Greenpeace is talking about depleted
> >> >uranium, from which bomb grade material has already been
> >> >extracted,
> >>
> >> Doh!!!
> >>
> >> Where is it?
> >
> >In the slugs from US anti tank munitions.
> 
> Oh, not in those barrels the rag-heads were drinking out of?

I doubt that the depleted stuff finds its way in there.

-- 

John Starrett

"It does not require a majority to prevail, 
but rather an irate, tireless minority keen 
to set brush fires in people's minds."   

Samuel Adams

Uncle Samuel wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:57:44 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Uncle Samuel wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:28:43 -0700, Dana Dare <iam@myown.person>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Auld Chiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the 
>>>>>US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>>>>>a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>>>>>"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>>>>>
>>>>>One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>>>>>quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>>>>>unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground 
>>>>>near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>>>>>
>>>>>from:
>>>>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>More:
>>>>>https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
>>>>>
>>>>>Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>>>>>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>>>>>
>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>>>awash in Uranium.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yellowcake too.
>>>>
>>>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more* 
>>>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles, 
>>>>doesn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>Um no, see they had some, wanted more, etc.
>>>
>>>Got it?
>>>
>>>Gooood...
>>>
>>
>>Ummmm... nope. I guess I'm just dense. ;-)
> 
>  I guess, don't let it git ya down though...


No worries on that count...! <g>

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"Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
> Auld Chiel wrote:
> > TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the
> > US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
> > a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
> > "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
> >
> > One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
> > quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
> > unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground
> > near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
> >
> > from:
> > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
> >
> > More:
> >
https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
> >
> > Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
> > http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
> >
> > Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> > same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> > awash in Uranium.
>
> Yellowcake too.
>
> Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
> yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
> doesn't it?
>

Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored the
allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
teapot.  KM
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alohacyberian wrote:
> "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
> 
>>Auld Chiel wrote:
>>
>>>TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the
>>>US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding
>>>a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by
>>>"frightening levels" of radioactive material.
>>>
>>>One canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant
>>>quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and
>>>unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground
>>>near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
>>>
>>>from:
>>>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm
>>>
>>>More:
>>>
>>
> https://www.greenpeace.org.au/features/features_details.html?site_id=45&news_id=1115
> 
>>>Another article on Uranium all over Iraq:
>>>http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0710/p07s02-woiq.html
>>>
>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>awash in Uranium.
>>
>>Yellowcake too.
>>
>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
>>doesn't it?
>>
> 
> 
> Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored the
> allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
> nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
> teapot.  KM


Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths -- 
and a highly-questionable use of military force.

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"Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
news:3F163BFF.5020203@myown.person...
> alohacyberian wrote:
> > "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> > news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
> >>>
> >>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> >>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> >>>awash in Uranium.
> >>
> >>Yellowcake too.
> >>
> >>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
> >>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
> >>doesn't it?
> >
> > Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored
the
> > allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
> > nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
> > teapot.  KM
>
> Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths -- 
> and a highly-questionable use of military force.
>

If you're suggesting the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I'd accuse you of being
a sado-masochist.  The number of people Saddam Hussein's regime raped,
tortured, maimed and slaughtered every week for 25 years was greater per week
than the entire casualties since the allied invasion of Iraq.  The invasion
ended the reign of terror.  Mission accomplished.  KM
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alohacyberian wrote:
> 
> "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> news:3F163BFF.5020203@myown.person...
> > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> > > news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
> > >>>
> > >>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> > >>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> > >>>awash in Uranium.
> > >>
> > >>Yellowcake too.
> > >>
> > >>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
> > >>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
> > >>doesn't it?
> > >
> > > Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored
> the
> > > allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
> > > nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
> > > teapot.  KM
> >
> > Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths --
> > and a highly-questionable use of military force.
> >
> 
> If you're suggesting the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I'd accuse you of being
> a sado-masochist.  The number of people Saddam Hussein's regime raped,
> tortured, maimed and slaughtered every week for 25 years was greater per week
> than the entire casualties since the allied invasion of Iraq.  The invasion
> ended the reign of terror.  Mission accomplished.  KM

Care to show us where Saddam's actions against his people was a reason
for going to war when Bush was talking it up?

Didn't think so.

Bush Lied and Innocent People Died.

-- 
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we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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alohacyberian wrote:
> "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> news:3F163BFF.5020203@myown.person...
> 
>>alohacyberian wrote:
>>
>>>"Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
>>>news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
>>>
>>>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>>>awash in Uranium.
>>>>
>>>>Yellowcake too.
>>>>
>>>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
>>>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
>>>>doesn't it?
>>>
>>>Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored
>>
> the
> 
>>>allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
>>>nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
>>>teapot.  KM
>>
>>Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths -- 
>>and a highly-questionable use of military force.
>>
> 
> 
> If you're suggesting the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I'd accuse you of being
> a sado-masochist.  The number of people Saddam Hussein's regime raped,
> tortured, maimed and slaughtered every week for 25 years was greater per week
> than the entire casualties since the allied invasion of Iraq.  The invasion
> ended the reign of terror.  Mission accomplished.  KM



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alohacyberian wrote:
> "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> news:3F163BFF.5020203@myown.person...
> 
>>alohacyberian wrote:
>>
>>>"Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
>>>news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
>>>
>>>>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
>>>>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
>>>>>awash in Uranium.
>>>>
>>>>Yellowcake too.
>>>>
>>>>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still more*
>>>>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
>>>>doesn't it?
>>>
>>>Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they favored
>>
> the
> 
>>>allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to get
>>>nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in a
>>>teapot.  KM
>>
>>Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths -- 
>>and a highly-questionable use of military force.
>>
> 
> 
> If you're suggesting the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I'd accuse you of being
> a sado-masochist.  The number of people Saddam Hussein's regime raped,
> tortured, maimed and slaughtered every week for 25 years was greater per week
> than the entire casualties since the allied invasion of Iraq.  The invasion
> ended the reign of terror.  Mission accomplished.  KM

Do you have any report citing the numbers of folks who died daily, 
weekly, monthly, and yearly under Saddam?
I'm not asking sarcastically, I want to know if such numbers are 
available from any reasonably credible source.

As to me being a 'sado-masochist'... well, your flame-claims are your 
own to justify -- I think the invasion, and occupation *as it was done* 
was wrong.

The result *as it stands now* is unacceptable. It is unacceptable for 
America, and it's unacceptable for the innocent civilians of Iraq. Our 
military did *precisely* what they were told to do -- and more, they 
bear *none* of the burden for poor outcome in this... increasingly 
sticky mire. That burden, rests entirely, with those 'wise folk' in the WH.

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"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F1786A9.DDECE041@hotmail.com...
> alohacyberian wrote:
> > "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> > news:3F163BFF.5020203@myown.person...
> > > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > > "Dana Dare" <iam@myown.person> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F15995B.8020500@myown.person...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Liberals tell us there is no Uranium in Iraq, and at the
> > > >>>same time GreenPeace is over there saying the place is
> > > >>>awash in Uranium.
> > > >>
> > > >>Yellowcake too.
> > > >>
> > > >>Makes you wonder how any report of Iraq attempting to buy *still
more*
> > > >>yellowcake from Africa was even marginally credible in any circles,
> > > >>doesn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Who cares if it's credible;  no rational person can claim they
favored
> > the
> > > > allied invasion of Iraq because of their requests for or attempts to
get
> > > > nuclear raw material from Africa.  It's another political tempest in
a
> > > > teapot.  KM
> > >
> > > Yes. But this *particular* tempest led, sadly enough, to many deaths --
> > > and a highly-questionable use of military force.
> >
> > If you're suggesting the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I'd accuse you of
being
> > a sado-masochist.  The number of people Saddam Hussein's regime raped,
> > tortured, maimed and slaughtered every week for 25 years was greater per
week
> > than the entire casualties since the allied invasion of Iraq.  The
invasion
> > ended the reign of terror.  Mission accomplished.  KM
>
> Care to show us where Saddam's actions against his people was a reason
> for going to war when Bush was talking it up?
>

Yeah, it's called humanitarianism - something stone-hearted members of the
melange of malignant malcontents will never understand.  Hussein was one of
the worst despots who ever reigned and the allies put a stop to it which has
driven the Leftwing Lunatic Fringe into unparalleled tantrums and historical
heights of hysterian.  Thanks for the priceless example of Leftwing Liberal
repartee and illustration of the Left's inability to discuss the issues
rationally.  No amount of money and no amount of publicity could paint
Leftwing Liberals in a worse light than they readily portray themselves.
Among thinking people, they are their own worst enemas!  Keep up the good
work, but, don't hold your breath regarding the next election returns as you
may be in for disappointment #3 in a row.  KM
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