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Mark N. Hattarki (gandhiji@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:

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: The whites that settled this country, invaded. They did so without the
: permission of the people that lived here (Native Americans). So, (by your
: illogic at the very least) they invaded. Right? Since immigrants from
: Mexico invading this country is wrong, it also follows that the whites
: that came from Europe are also wrong in invading. Correct? 

	So according to your logic, because Americans from Europe
	invaded this land, we should allow Mexicans to invade?

: You also claim that illegal immigrants are thieves because they get
: welfare, correct? What does that make the founding fathers that stole
: from the natives? What does that make them when they killed them off?

	Conquerors.  The European culture overcame the native culture
	by means of numbers, tenacity, and technology.  And your point
	is what?

: BTW - I'm only following your analogy, because I'm trying to demonstrate
: something to you. No doubt, when I took your same convoluted reasoning and
: aplied it to something you hold dear, you probably changed your tune a
: bit, even though it fits. 

	If by suggesting that Europeans were wrong to conquer North
	America you intend to justify the Mexican invasion, you
	probably need to think further.

: My guess is that you probably will try to come up with some
: rationalization as to why your line of though applies to Mexicans but not
: Europeans. Well, this is your problem. You associate yourself with
: Americans (which in your mind, demonstrated explicitly by your newsgroup
: postings, are whites). You will undoubtably refuse to accept the
: Europeans as evil invaders (which undoubtably they were). Why, because you
: consider yourself to be a part of them, and you don't think that you are
: capable of doing something wrong or immoral! So, you must defend them.
: This is your arrogance!

	American Indians were incapable of resisting the Europeans.
	We are capable of resisting the invasion of Mexicans.  Or
	should we not resist the Mexicans because we successfully
	displaced the American Indians?  You seem to want to determine
	immigration policy according to guilt about something that has
	nothing to do with our country today or with Mexicans.  Should
	the Italians allow immigration from North Africa because the
	Romans saked Carthage?