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Re: Affirmative Acton promotes the unqualified to a position they do not deserve!

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From: Craig K. Gowens (Commissioner of...
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:00
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tracey12@swbell.net wrote:
> Michael A. Koenecke wrote:
> > >
> > > Affirmative Action has been one of the most progressive programs
ever under-
> > > taken by our government. Has it grown too big? Probably. Should it
be totally
> > > scraped? No way. By removing Affirmative Action, UT is back in a racist
> > > criteria of addmission of its Law School.
> Craig, that is such lunacy!  "Racist criteria"???  What a flaming
> liberal!  It's so easy for you liberals to use the word "racist"!
> To a socialist, everyone must be on the same level.

I'm not a socialist. I'm not a communist either. Why is it many conservatives
accuse liberals of being socialists/communists. I could do the same and accuse
you Tracey of being a facist.

> If they are not,
> then the power of government should be brought to bear.  
> Craig, AA is nothing more than racial discrimination because it places
> one or more races above another. 
>  AA promotes the ungualified to a position they do not deserve.

Wrong, it removes discrimination in areas its likely to occur. College
addmissions
have alsways been an area where discrimination has occured. Just look at
the court
rulling that forced UT to institute an affirmative action addmissions
policy in the
first place. Rarely do "unQualified" persons get selected over qualified
persons.
In the Hopwood case, the minorities selected over Susan Hopwood, et al,
had comparable
if not identical test scores. Hopwood's cases was based on the fact that in the 
bottom bracket of addmission test scores, the rate of addmission of minoritites
was higher than the rate for whites. Both the whites and minorities were in the
same group that were equally qualified for addmission.

 
>  Mike,
> What party has been known for pushing Affirmative Action?
> What political party would stand to benefit from such legislation?
> Are you aware that some schools are automatically accepting the
> Top Ten Percent of any High School?  This is a new way to circumvent 
> Hopwood. 
>  The Socialists strike again!---or should I say the Democrats?

Schools have been accepting the top ten percent automatically for years.
That is a
totally merit based addmission standard. The only complaint one can have
of it is
that in absolute terms, one high school may be better than another, but
then again,
the top ten percent respresents only a small portion of a university's class.



Craig K. Gowens
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From: NOSPAMckgowens@uts.cc.utexas.edu.REMOVEFORMAIL (Craig K. Gowens (Commissioner of the SWC))
Subject: Re: Affirmative Acton promotes the unqualified to a position they do not deserve!
Date: 1998/03/27
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