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Erik (dr.feinstein@DELETETHIS.mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:33:20 -0600, Tracey <tracey12@swbell.net> wrote:

: >Illegal aliens disgust me. 

: You disgust me.

: >What you said above is nothing more than the
: >party line.  Though some come here for those reasons, doing so illegally
: >is very wrong.  Why, when so many others come here legally, do so many
: >wetbacks swim the river?  Our government says its becasue many of them
: >will not be allowed in legally, so they invade our country.

: Ever since the Republican-dominated senate cut off welfare benefits for legal
: and illegal immigrants alike recently, there has been no welfare for immigrants
: - even immigrant vetrans.

	Why should welfare be provided to any immigrants?  America:
	Free lunch for the world?

: >Many come here very pregnant with the goal of having their baby here so
: >they can quailify for welfare and free medical.

: With the lack of welfare, most come here to work - and work they do. Do you know

	Two thirds of the births at L.A. County hospitals in any given
	recent year have been to illegal aliens, at a cost of about a
	billion dollars per year.  You might visit Parkland hospital's
	maternity area.  It looks like a Mexican hospital.

: who does most of the yardwork, streetwork, construction work,
manufacturing
: work, and roofing work in the southwest US? I'll give you a hint - it's not
: aspiring poor local citizens. Like it or not, most illegals are a benefit,
: because they are industrious and they take the low-paying jobs that citizens
: won't take. If the illegals were all rounded up and taken away tomorrow, there
: would be massive price hikes on all sorts of things, from new homes to new roads
: to lawn service to scads of manufactured goods.

	So many fallacies ... the jobs are low-paying because the labor
	is so plentiful - supply and demand.  To rebut your assertions
	generally, has it occurred to you that when workers are paid so
	little, they cannot provide their own health care and can't
	carry their own weight in educational costs.  Taxpayers
	subsidize the health, education, and welfare benefits provided
	to low-paid workers.  So what taxpayers save at the checkout
	stand, they pay to the tax collector.  This is all pretty
	fundamental stuff.  You just haven't thought very deeply
	or widely about it.  That head of lettuce doesn't cost 49 cents;
	after the subsidies are paid through taxation, it cost about
	two bucks, probably more.

: >If someone breaks into your home and steals your money, what are they?
: >If someone breaks into your country and steals your welfare, and other
: >social services including seats in your tax supported schools, what are
: >they?  Criminals.

: The United States isn't going broke paying for services for illegals. Welfare
: doesn't even scratch the surface of programs such as, say, Social Security and
: Medicare.

	Illegal aliens, according to two GAO reports released in July
	of 1995, cost the USA between two billion and 19 billion dollars
	per year, every year.  According to Dr. Huddle's studies, the
	cost is about 50 billion per year.  

: Do some more research next time.

	I've been researching the issue for three years.  The conclusion
	I've drawn is this: Mexicans are colonizing rather than assimilating,
	and Americans are allowing it and paying for it.  


:   - Erik Smith
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