🚀 go-pugleaf

Tiens, ca fait 2 fois que je poste ce message, il n'apparait
toujours pas apres une journee. La premiere fois, j'ai peut-etre
fait une erreur de manip, mais la seconde ??? Je n'ose penser
que "quelqu'un" a efface ce message sans avertir personne... C'est
vrai que ce message peut deranger les adeptes de Moon. "Il n'y
a que la verite qui blesse". 



En surfant sur le Web, j'ai trouve cette page tres interessante
d'un ancien adepte de la secte Moon. Elle se trouve a l'adresse :
http://www.channel1.com/users/ingo/

Lisez par exemple le temoignage d'Ingo Michehl sur les techniques
de recrutement, l'"esclavage" dans le mouvement, la manipulation
mentale. Son temoignage se termine ainsi :
<<
Summary of some of the unethical practices I experienced in
CARP/Unification Church:

a) Fraud - The deceptive, manipulative tactics of recruiting (including
 mind control) used to get and keep me in the group, hiding the true
 identity and religious nature of the group which cost me the loss of 7
 seven of the most important years of my life, during which I could
 neither get a proper education nor earn money for my future family

b) battery, personal injury and mental cruelty (the bathroom incident
etc.)

c) health problems as result of rigorous fundraising requirements:
 backproblems (lower back pain, worsened scoleosis), extreme tension
headaches, sleep disturbances; I almost died after my pneumo thorax
because, like several other members I know of, I was forbidden to see a
doctor.

>>

Mais la partie la plus interessante sont les raisons RELIGIEUSES
pourquoi ce type a quitte la secte. Cette analyse est la suivante :

<<
I remember Moon's words, "No matter what ...don't EVER leave. Even if you
have to lock yourself into a closet, don't EVER leave! Your
descendants will accuse you for all eternity!"
The Unification Church teaches that people only leave for illegitimate,
selfish, secular reasons. I was taught that there is no legitimate reason
to leave.
To show that this is a lie, I want to briefly share what really happened
and that I left the church for RELIGIOUS reasons as part of my spiritual
journey, my personal quest for truth.

For me, the free gift of salvation offered by Christianity was liberation
from the bondage of Moonism. Although I know many others who left for
other
legitimate reasons, I left for religious reasons, so please bear with me
if this part of my explanation is rather religious. (In different section
I will share
another perspective.) Even though you may not agree with all that I say,
I would like to ask you to keep an open mind and to think about the
essence
of what I'm saying.

I was distributing fliers I had designed to invite students at the
University of Illinois Campus (UIC) in Chicago to one of my lectures on
the Divine
Principle. As I was handing them out at the bottom of the escalators, a
student walked past me and then came back to ask me if I was new and
whether I'd tell him about our group. Lesly, a Christian engineering
student who had walked away from the Boston Church of Christ (another
controlling high pressure group) simply by reading the Bible and
realizing that it was unscriptural, was very friendly and sincere. As he
told me later, he
wasn't going to talk to me, but he felt pushed by God to turn around and
come back to me. We met a couple times to pray and discuss our beliefs.
He
said he wanted to be right with God and that he would move into the CARP
center if I could prove to him that the DP is true. After agreeing to
talk
about truth, the Word of God, rather than our individual doctrines, he
asked me, "If there was a contradiction between the DP (Divine Principle)
and
the Bible - to which authority would you hold?" Realizing that God cannot
contradict himself and his Word, the Bible, in a later revelation or "New
Truth," I said, "The Bible - and if you can prove to me that there IS a
contradiction, I will change my way and leave the church!"

We talked for about 6 hours, and after doing my own analysis and research
with prayer based on a comparison of DP and the Bible by the Spiritual
Counterfits project during a "3 day condition" I had set myself, I
commited my life to Jesus Christ as my ONLY Lord and Savior and left the
group. I
was finally able to overcome the fears of being destroyed by satan I had
been indoctrinated with because I realized: If the Bible is true, Mr.
Moon
cannot be the Messiah and satan can't harm me.

For the first time I came to understand the powerful meaning of verses
like,
"He (Jesus) is able to save completely those who come to God through him,
because he always lives to intercede for them."[Heb 7:25; read
context!] and "I (Jesus) give them eternal life, and they shall never
perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has
given them to me, is greater than all." [John 10:28,29]

I realized that I would actually be going against God's will by following
a false prophet as prophesied in Mathew 24 ("For false Christs and false
prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even
the elect --if that were possible." [ Mat 24:24] ) and Luke 21. (He
replied:
"Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name,
claiming, `I am he,' and, `The time is near.' Do not follow them." [Luke
21:8] )

I also realized that if the Bible is not true, then the DP is also not
true, because its foundation of authority rests on the Bible. (The DP
often uses the
Bible to solidify its claims, e.g. the Parallels of History and the
"Return of the Messiah" ...although it quotes the Bible out of context
and tries to
discredit it as only "partial truth". The other source of suggested
validation is subjective experience, which is the same as the Mormon
church, the
Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientology and other extreme movements espouse. In
contrast to Christianity, experience is set above reasoning. Experience,
however, can easily be manipulated.)

Now, two years after leaving, I can say that God has been good and
faithful! He has blessed me in many ways. It's o.k. to have been deceived
- but
it's crucial to have the courage to admit it and change your way! After
all: YOU are still responsible! You DON'T have to leave God to leave the
church! The church teaches that people only leave because they're
"invaded by satan," because they're weak or arrogant, because of
resentment or
"chapter 2 problems" (sexual sin). Although I used to believe that I have
come to realize that THAT'S ANOTHER LIE intended to scare people into
staying! (I read in one of Mr. Moon's speeches that it's better to lock
yourself into a closet than to leave - because if you leave, you'll be
invaded and
destroyed by satan. Your ancestors and descendants will accuse you for
all eternity. Your descendants will be cut off from the Messiah for 7
generations.)

Since leaving I have met many other former members who like myself left
out of STRENGTH and INTEGRITY, because they could not continue to
support an organization which is so corrupt, untrue and abusive... while
claiming to be the only true organization of God and True Love on earth.
If
you're a present member, consider this: Why is it, for example, that
while the Bible teaches, "love your enemy," and while the DP is supposed
to be a
teaching of True Love, the UC teaches you not to have contact with former
members or people who are "negative" about the group? Would the loving
thing not be to try to initiate dialogue and win them back with love if
they really "erred"? Instead, they are viewed as "dead" and "evil". After
I left the
group, all Chicago CARP members were taught to not to have ANY "Give and
Take" (relationship) with the Christian student (Lesly) who had talked
to me, because he was "satan"! By the way, did you know that according to
Heung Jin Nim (Moon's son who died in a car accident and has since
been channeling messages from the spirit world), satan has been restored?
So what's the big deal, anyway? In case you're a member: Do you really
want to follow God and truth? If there's a contradiction between DP and
the Bible - to which authority will YOU hold? What if the "Parallels of
History" (The time line which "proves" that Moon is the Messiah) are
historically as well as biblically incorrect? Have you ever checked it?

>>

Il y a plein d'autres choses interessantes et instructives sur cette
page que je vous conseille de lire, et je demande aux deux lunatiques
de bien vouloir participer a cette discussion, surtout en ce qui
concerne les contradictions entre la doctrine de Moon et la Bible.
Peut-etre ouvriront-ils enfin les yeux.

        Bien a vous
                NlS