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Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/2/04]

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From: Pupeas
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:11
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"Anonymouse" <anybody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Remic wrote:
>
> > THE LIES ABOUT MARIJUANA USE
> >
> > LIE NUMBER 1
> >
> > Marijuana is Less Dangerous Than Alcohol and Tobacco Use.
>
> there are fatal alcohol and tobacco overdoses Every Year in the US.

Who ODs on Tobacco by smoking it?
>
> there have been -0- fatal deaths caused by cannaabis in all of reported
history.

That is a LIE. Prove it. You can't. How many stoners have had fatle car
wrecks? -0- ?
Bullshit!

>
> > Even though the tar content of cannabis smoke is higher than that of an
> > ordinary pure tobacco cigarette, no filter is used.
>
> filters are often used, you just don't get out much.

*No one uses stinking FILTERS! What planet are you from?

>
> > The risk of it causing cancer is greatly increased.
>
> cannabis use has never been linked to cancer regardless of the method of
> administration... and even if it does contain twice the amount of tar
> ass a conventional tobacco cigarrette since the total amount consumed
> per day is so much less you're still ahead (ie 2 joints a day vs the 20
> times more tobacco in a single pack..)

*There are many studies that show MARIJUANA USE increases cancer, just like
Tobacco.

>
> > Marijuana use leads to an addiction.
>
> even the DEA has admitted that cannabis isn't addictive.

*DEA means Physically addictive,  but MARIJUANA is highly physologically
addicitve.
Which IS addiction.


> also check the Merck manual.
>
> > Users of cannabis move more easily on to using other narcotic drugs than
> > their drug-free contemporaries. At least 80% of those who later become
> > heroin and cocaine addicts started their career in drugs with hashish or
> > marijuana.
>
> what "drug free" contemporaries? I'd bet well over 90% of hard drug
> users first addictive drug used was caffeine in a soft drink.

Changing the subject again, it was/is MARIJUANA USE, and they will tell you.

>
> > LIE NUMBER 2
> >
> > Marijuana Is A Medically Necessary Drug
> >
> > The facts remain, however, that in 1989, after an extensive inquiry, the
US
> > government issued an order rejecting an application to reschedule
marijuana
> > for medicinal use.
>
> are you talking about Olsen et al vs the DEA?
>
> you should read it again, Judge Young recommended rescheduling.

It was rejected later.

>
> > In 1993, the US Congress issued another statement which confirmed the
> > previous findings. It stated:
> > Following exhaustive studies of existing data by the National Institute
for
> > Health, scientists concluded that there is no clinical evidence to
suggest
> > that smoked marijuana is superior to currently available therapies for
> > glaucoma, weight loss and wasting associated with AIDS, nausea and
vomiting
> > associated with cancer chemotherapy, muscular spasticity associated with
> > multiple sclerosis or intractable pain.
> >
> > Similar conclusions have been published in reports from other countries,
> > including the Netherlands (which is the home of one of the most liberal
drug
> > policies in the world).
>
> odd... you can get prescribed cannabis on the national health plan in
> the netherlands now.

Your Facts are Off.  They took it off the streets just last year, they used
to have cafe's to smoke it in, but the government has cracked down on it,
and the only way to get it is through certain doctors now, and they have
strict limits.


>
> > LIE NUMBER 3
> >
>
> > Young people are confused and misinformed about the dangers of
marijuana,
>
> what "dangers of marijuana"? getting busted? that's a danger of
prohibition.

You should inform yourself on the medical and physical dangers, but since
your in an addiction, you won't.
Is driving a car stoned a danger?

>
> > such proposals undermine the efforts of parents who are trying
> > to influence their children not to use drugs to protect both the health
and
> > future of their children.
>
> you mean while they sit their washing down a valium with a rum and coke
> (a legal addictive "speedball"... alcohol and caffeine) while reaching
> for a cigarrette?

*You are Changing the subject, trying to justify your use, the dog has an
itch, you gotta smoke a joint.
It is addictive thinking, dude.

>
> > that marijuana use is a serious health and social risk. Criminalizing
> > marijuana also enables those found guilty of using it to be given
treatment,
> > education and rehabilitation.
>
> ok.... the Nixon study found that the greatest risk of soldiers using
> marijuana (in vietnam) was that they tended to gain weight.

That is a lie, Urban rumor, read the study, do you have the link?

> > LIE NUMBER 4
> >
> > Marijuana Use Does Not Lead to Other Drug Use
> >
> > There is no doubt that most heroin and cocaine addicts started their
drug
> > taking careers with marijuana use.
>
> actually there is.
>
> they undoubtedly started their use of addictive drugs with alcohol,
> nicotine, and caffeine... all addictive drugs.

You are changing the subject again, blame it on the doctor who delivered you
because he gave your Mom a pain shot.
               IT IS MARIJUANA USE
>
> > Clearly, if the numbers of cannabis users can be reduced, the number of
> > users of other illegal drugs will be reduced as well.
>
> in the netherlands they found that taking cannabis OUT of the hard drug
> world both reduced hard drug useage and cannabis useage.

Good, take it all out. too many stoned slugs around.
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