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[NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
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NORMEL E-Zine
Volume 7
Issue 34
September 4, 2004

The NORMEL E-Zine is a free weekly compilation of major news items
regarding marijuana hazards. Text of archived stories is available on
NORMEL's website at with a picture of our 34 year old leader:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040204/capt.2020404au.jpg

Donate today to NORMEL's long-standing efforts to educate people on the
dangers of Pot use!
http://www.screenagercentral.com/summit/right_angle/

Sign up for NORMEL's monthly pledge program today, and know the health
risks!
http://www.skincareindia.com/index-cid-19-pid-1960.html


Cannabis link to mental illness strengthened

23:01 21 November 02

NewScientist.com news service

The link between regular cannabis use and later depression and schizophrenia
has been significantly strengthened by three new studies.
The studies provide "little support" for an alternative explanation - that
people with mental illnesses self-medicate with marijuana - according to
Joseph Rey and Christopher Tennant of the University of Sydney, who have
written an editorial on the papers in the British Medical Journal.

One of the key conclusions of the research is that people who start smoking
cannabis as adolescents are at the greatest risk of later developing mental
health problems. Another team calculates that eliminating cannabis use in
the UK population could reduce cases of schizophrenia by 13 per cent.

Until now, say Rey and Tennant, there was "a dearth of reliable evidence" to
support the idea that cannabis use could cause schizophrenia or depression.
That lack of good evidence "has handicapped the development of rational
public health policies," according to one of the research groups, led by
George Patton at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute in Melbourne,
Australia.
The works also highlights potential risks associated with using cannabis as
a medicine to ease the symptoms of muscular sclerosis, for example.

Pharmacological effect

Patton's team followed over 1600 Australian school pupils aged 14 to 15 for
seven years. Daily cannabis use was associated with a five-fold increased
risk of depression at the age of 20. Weekly use was linked to a two-fold
increase. The regular users were no more likely to have suffered from
depression or anxiety at the start of the study.

The reason for the link is unclear. Social consequences of frequent cannabis
use include educational failure and unemployment, which could increase the
risk of depression. "However, because the risk seems confined largely to
daily users, the question about a direct pharmacological effect remains,"
says Patton.

In separate research, a team led by Stanley Zammit at the University of
Cardiff, UK, evaluated data on over 50,000 men who had been Swedish military
conscripts in 1969 and1970. This group represents 97 per cent of men aged 18
to 20 in the population at that time.
The new analysis revealed a dose-dependant relationship between the
frequency of cannabis use and schizophrenia. This held true in men with no
psychotic symptoms before they started using cannabis, suggesting they were
not self-medicating.

Genetic factors

Finally, researchers led by Terrie Moffitt at King's College London, UK,
analysed comprehensive data on over 1000 people born in Dunedin, New Zealand
in 1972 and 1973.

They found that people who used cannabis by age 15 were four times as likely
to have a diagnosis of schizophreniform disorder (a milder version of
schizophrenia) at age 26 than non-users.


But when the number of psychotic symptoms at age 11 was controlled for, this
increased risk dropped to become non-significant. This suggests that people
already at greater risk of later developing mental health problems are also
more likely to smoke cannabis.
The total number of high quality studies on cannabis use and mental health
disorders remains small, stress Rey and Tennant. And it is still not clear
whether cannabis can cause these conditions in people not predisposed by
genetic factors, for example, to develop them.
"The overall weight of evidence is that occasional use of cannabis has few
harmful effects overall," Zammit's team writes. "Nevertheless, our results
indicate a potentially serious risk to the mental health of people who use
cannabis. Such risks need to be considered in the current move to liberalise
and possibly legalise the use of cannabis in the UK and other countries."
Journal references: British Medical Journal (vol 325, p1195, p1199, p1212,
p1183)

Chronic marijuana users are said to develop an "amotivational syndrome"
characterized by passivity, decreased motivation and preoccupation with drug
taking. The relationship of this syndrome to marijuana use, however, has no
been established. Like alcohol intoxication, marijuana intoxication impairs
reading comprehension, memory, speech, problem-solving ability and reaction
time. The effects of long-term use are unknown. Consistent evidence that
marijuana induces or causes brain damage does not exist. Medical researchers
are studying the effectiveness of the drug in relieving some of the symptoms
of glaucoma and in treating the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy and
radiation treatments.

Are there any other adverse reactions to marijuana?
A common bad reaction to marijuana is the "acute panic anxiety reaction."
People describe this reaction as an extreme fear of "losing control," which
causes panic. The symptoms usually disappear in a few hours.

What about psychological dependence on marijuana?
Long-term regular users of marijuana may become psychologically dependent.
They may have a hard time limiting their use, they may need more of the drug
to get the same effect, and they may develop problems with their jobs and
personal relationships. The drug can become the most important aspect of
their lives.

What are the dangers for young people?
One major concern about marijuana is its possible effects on young people as
they grow up. Research shows that the earlier people start using drugs, the
more likely they are to go on to experiment with other drugs. In addition,
when young people start using marijuana regularly, they often lose interest
and are not motivated to do their schoolwork. The effects of marijuana can
interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and
verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students do not remember
what they have learned when they are "high".

How does marijuana affect driving ability?
Driving experiments show that marijuana affects a wide range of skills
needed for safe driving -- thinking and reflexes are slowed, making it hard
for drivers to respond to sudden, unexpected events. Also, a driver's
ability to "track" (stay in lane) through curves, to brake quickly, and to
maintain speed and the proper distance between cars is affected. Research
shows that these skills are impaired for at least 4-6 hours after smoking a
single marijuana cigarette, long after the "high" is gone. If a person
drinks alcohol, along with using marijuana, the risk of an accident greatly
increases. Marijuana presents a definite danger on the road.

Does marijuana affect the human reproductive system?
Some research studies suggest that the use of marijuana during pregnancy may
result in premature babies and in low birth weights. Studies of men and
women may have a temporary loss of fertility. These findings suggest that
marijuana may be especially harmful during adolescence, a period of rapid
physical and sexual development.

How does marijuana affect the heart?
Marijuana use increases the heart rate as much as 50 percent, depending on
the amount of THC. It can cause chest pain in people who have a poor blood
supply to the heart - and it produces these effects more rapidly than
tobacco smoke does.

How does marijuana affect the lungs?
Scientists believe that marijuana can be especially harmful to the lungs
because users often inhale the unfiltered smoke deeply and hold it in their
lungs as long as possible. Therefore, the smoke is in contact with lung
tissues for long periods of time, which irritates the lungs and damages the
way they work. Marijuana smoke contains some of the same ingredients in
tobacco smoke that can cause emphysema and cancer. In addition, many
marijuana users also smoke cigarettes; the combined effects of smoking these
two substances creates an increased health risk.

Can marijuana cause cancer?
Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is
found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been
exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed
cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In
laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when
applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that
marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.

How are people usually introduced to marijuana?
Many young people are introduced to marijuana by their peers - usually
acquaintances, friends, sisters, and brothers. People often try drugs such
as marijuana because they feel pressured by peers to be part of the group.
Children must be taught how to say no to peer pressure to try drugs. Parents
can get involved by becoming informed about marijuana and by talking to
their children about drug use.

What is marijuana "burnout"?
"Burnout" is a term first used by marijuana smokers themselves to describe
the effect of prolonged use. Young people who smoke marijuana heavily over
long periods of time can become dull, slow moving, and inattentive. These
"burned-out" users are sometimes so unaware of their surroundings that they
do not respond when friends speak to them, and they do not realize they have
a problem.

How long do chemicals from marijuana stay in the body after the drug is
smoked?
When marijuana is smoked, THC, its active ingredient, is absorbed by most
tissues and organs in the body; however, it is primarily found in fat
tissues. The body, in its attempt to rid itself of the foreign chemical,
chemically transforms the THC into metabolites. Urine tests can detect THC
metabolites for up to a week after people have smoked marijuana. Tests
involving radioactively labeled THC have traced these metabolites in animals
for up to a month.

Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 1984.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#92
Author: Anonymous
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 03:45
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so you use a fake organization and a 20 year old discredited report?

DrPostman wrote:

> NORMEL E-Zine
> Volume 7
> Issue 34
> September 4, 2004
> 
> The NORMEL E-Zine is a free weekly compilation of major news items
> regarding marijuana hazards. Text of archived stories is available on
> NORMEL's website at with a picture of our 34 year old leader:
> 
> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040204/capt.2020404au.jpg
> 
> Donate today to NORMEL's long-standing efforts to educate people on the
> dangers of Pot use!
> http://www.screenagercentral.com/summit/right_angle/
> 
> Sign up for NORMEL's monthly pledge program today, and know the health
> risks!
> http://www.skincareindia.com/index-cid-19-pid-1960.html
> 
> 
> Cannabis link to mental illness strengthened
> 
> 23:01 21 November 02
> 
> NewScientist.com news service
> 
> The link between regular cannabis use and later depression and schizophrenia
> has been significantly strengthened by three new studies.
> The studies provide "little support" for an alternative explanation - that
> people with mental illnesses self-medicate with marijuana - according to
> Joseph Rey and Christopher Tennant of the University of Sydney, who have
> written an editorial on the papers in the British Medical Journal.
> 
> One of the key conclusions of the research is that people who start smoking
> cannabis as adolescents are at the greatest risk of later developing mental
> health problems. Another team calculates that eliminating cannabis use in
> the UK population could reduce cases of schizophrenia by 13 per cent.
> 
> Until now, say Rey and Tennant, there was "a dearth of reliable evidence" to
> support the idea that cannabis use could cause schizophrenia or depression.
> That lack of good evidence "has handicapped the development of rational
> public health policies," according to one of the research groups, led by
> George Patton at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute in Melbourne,
> Australia.
> The works also highlights potential risks associated with using cannabis as
> a medicine to ease the symptoms of muscular sclerosis, for example.
> 
> Pharmacological effect
> 
> Patton's team followed over 1600 Australian school pupils aged 14 to 15 for
> seven years. Daily cannabis use was associated with a five-fold increased
> risk of depression at the age of 20. Weekly use was linked to a two-fold
> increase. The regular users were no more likely to have suffered from
> depression or anxiety at the start of the study.
> 
> The reason for the link is unclear. Social consequences of frequent cannabis
> use include educational failure and unemployment, which could increase the
> risk of depression. "However, because the risk seems confined largely to
> daily users, the question about a direct pharmacological effect remains,"
> says Patton.
> 
> In separate research, a team led by Stanley Zammit at the University of
> Cardiff, UK, evaluated data on over 50,000 men who had been Swedish military
> conscripts in 1969 and1970. This group represents 97 per cent of men aged 18
> to 20 in the population at that time.
> The new analysis revealed a dose-dependant relationship between the
> frequency of cannabis use and schizophrenia. This held true in men with no
> psychotic symptoms before they started using cannabis, suggesting they were
> not self-medicating.
> 
> Genetic factors
> 
> Finally, researchers led by Terrie Moffitt at King's College London, UK,
> analysed comprehensive data on over 1000 people born in Dunedin, New Zealand
> in 1972 and 1973.
> 
> They found that people who used cannabis by age 15 were four times as likely
> to have a diagnosis of schizophreniform disorder (a milder version of
> schizophrenia) at age 26 than non-users.
> 
> 
> But when the number of psychotic symptoms at age 11 was controlled for, this
> increased risk dropped to become non-significant. This suggests that people
> already at greater risk of later developing mental health problems are also
> more likely to smoke cannabis.
> The total number of high quality studies on cannabis use and mental health
> disorders remains small, stress Rey and Tennant. And it is still not clear
> whether cannabis can cause these conditions in people not predisposed by
> genetic factors, for example, to develop them.
> "The overall weight of evidence is that occasional use of cannabis has few
> harmful effects overall," Zammit's team writes. "Nevertheless, our results
> indicate a potentially serious risk to the mental health of people who use
> cannabis. Such risks need to be considered in the current move to liberalise
> and possibly legalise the use of cannabis in the UK and other countries."
> Journal references: British Medical Journal (vol 325, p1195, p1199, p1212,
> p1183)
> 
> Chronic marijuana users are said to develop an "amotivational syndrome"
> characterized by passivity, decreased motivation and preoccupation with drug
> taking. The relationship of this syndrome to marijuana use, however, has no
> been established. Like alcohol intoxication, marijuana intoxication impairs
> reading comprehension, memory, speech, problem-solving ability and reaction
> time. The effects of long-term use are unknown. Consistent evidence that
> marijuana induces or causes brain damage does not exist. Medical researchers
> are studying the effectiveness of the drug in relieving some of the symptoms
> of glaucoma and in treating the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy and
> radiation treatments.
> 
> Are there any other adverse reactions to marijuana?
> A common bad reaction to marijuana is the "acute panic anxiety reaction."
> People describe this reaction as an extreme fear of "losing control," which
> causes panic. The symptoms usually disappear in a few hours.
> 
> What about psychological dependence on marijuana?
> Long-term regular users of marijuana may become psychologically dependent.
> They may have a hard time limiting their use, they may need more of the drug
> to get the same effect, and they may develop problems with their jobs and
> personal relationships. The drug can become the most important aspect of
> their lives.
> 
> What are the dangers for young people?
> One major concern about marijuana is its possible effects on young people as
> they grow up. Research shows that the earlier people start using drugs, the
> more likely they are to go on to experiment with other drugs. In addition,
> when young people start using marijuana regularly, they often lose interest
> and are not motivated to do their schoolwork. The effects of marijuana can
> interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and
> verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students do not remember
> what they have learned when they are "high".
> 
> How does marijuana affect driving ability?
> Driving experiments show that marijuana affects a wide range of skills
> needed for safe driving -- thinking and reflexes are slowed, making it hard
> for drivers to respond to sudden, unexpected events. Also, a driver's
> ability to "track" (stay in lane) through curves, to brake quickly, and to
> maintain speed and the proper distance between cars is affected. Research
> shows that these skills are impaired for at least 4-6 hours after smoking a
> single marijuana cigarette, long after the "high" is gone. If a person
> drinks alcohol, along with using marijuana, the risk of an accident greatly
> increases. Marijuana presents a definite danger on the road.
> 
> Does marijuana affect the human reproductive system?
> Some research studies suggest that the use of marijuana during pregnancy may
> result in premature babies and in low birth weights. Studies of men and
> women may have a temporary loss of fertility. These findings suggest that
> marijuana may be especially harmful during adolescence, a period of rapid
> physical and sexual development.
> 
> How does marijuana affect the heart?
> Marijuana use increases the heart rate as much as 50 percent, depending on
> the amount of THC. It can cause chest pain in people who have a poor blood
> supply to the heart - and it produces these effects more rapidly than
> tobacco smoke does.
> 
> How does marijuana affect the lungs?
> Scientists believe that marijuana can be especially harmful to the lungs
> because users often inhale the unfiltered smoke deeply and hold it in their
> lungs as long as possible. Therefore, the smoke is in contact with lung
> tissues for long periods of time, which irritates the lungs and damages the
> way they work. Marijuana smoke contains some of the same ingredients in
> tobacco smoke that can cause emphysema and cancer. In addition, many
> marijuana users also smoke cigarettes; the combined effects of smoking these
> two substances creates an increased health risk.
> 
> Can marijuana cause cancer?
> Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is
> found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been
> exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed
> cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In
> laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when
> applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that
> marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.
> 
> How are people usually introduced to marijuana?
> Many young people are introduced to marijuana by their peers - usually
> acquaintances, friends, sisters, and brothers. People often try drugs such
> as marijuana because they feel pressured by peers to be part of the group.
> Children must be taught how to say no to peer pressure to try drugs. Parents
> can get involved by becoming informed about marijuana and by talking to
> their children about drug use.
> 
> What is marijuana "burnout"?
> "Burnout" is a term first used by marijuana smokers themselves to describe
> the effect of prolonged use. Young people who smoke marijuana heavily over
> long periods of time can become dull, slow moving, and inattentive. These
> "burned-out" users are sometimes so unaware of their surroundings that they
> do not respond when friends speak to them, and they do not realize they have
> a problem.
> 
> How long do chemicals from marijuana stay in the body after the drug is
> smoked?
> When marijuana is smoked, THC, its active ingredient, is absorbed by most
> tissues and organs in the body; however, it is primarily found in fat
> tissues. The body, in its attempt to rid itself of the foreign chemical,
> chemically transforms the THC into metabolites. Urine tests can detect THC
> metabolites for up to a week after people have smoked marijuana. Tests
> involving radioactively labeled THC have traced these metabolites in animals
> for up to a month.
> 
> Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 1984.
> 
> 

-- 
To live outside the law, you must be honest...
(Absolutely Sweet Marie - Blonde on Blonde - 1966)
Conservatives: Reject National ID Card!!!!
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:50
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  From the desk of Congressman Ron Paul

  Reject the National ID Card


Washington politicians are once again seriously considering imposing a 
national identification card - and it may well become law before the end 
of the 108th Congress. The much-hailed 9/11 Commission report released 
in July recommends a federal identification card and, worse, a "larger 
network of screening points" inside the United States. Does this mean we 
are to have "screening points" inside our country where American 
citizens will be required to "show their papers" to government 
officials? It certainly sounds that way!

As I have written recently, the 9/11 Commission is nothing more than 
ex-government officials and lobbyists advising current government 
officials that we need more government for America to be safe. Yet it 
was that same government that failed so miserably on September 11, 2001.

Congress has embraced the 9/11 Commission report uncritically since its 
release in July. Now Congress is rushing to write each 9/11 Commission 
recommendation into law before the November election. In the same way 
Congress rushed to pass the PATRIOT Act after the September 11 attacks 
to be seen "doing something," it looks like Congress is about to make 
the same mistake again of rushing to pass liberty-destroying legislation 
without stopping to consider the consequences. Because it is so 
controversial, we may see legislation mandating a national 
identification card with biometric identifiers hidden in bills 
implementing 9/11 Commission recommendations. We have seen this 
technique used in the past on controversial measures.

A national identification card, in whatever form it may take, will allow 
the federal government to inappropriately monitor the movements and 
transactions of every American. History shows that governments 
inevitably use the power to monitor the actions of people in harmful 
ways. Claims that the government will protect the privacy of Americans 
when implementing a national identification card ring hollow. We would 
do well to remember what happened with the Social Security number. It 
was introduced with solemn restrictions on how it could be used, but it 
has become a de facto national identifier. 

Those who are willing to allow the government to establish a 
Soviet-style internal passport system because they think it will make us 
safer are terribly mistaken. Subjecting every citizen to surveillance 
and "screening points" will actually make us less safe, not in the least 
because it will divert resources away from tracking and apprehending 
terrorists and deploy them against innocent Americans!

The federal government has no constitutional authority to require 
law-abiding Americans to present any form of identification before they 
engage in private transactions. Instead of forcing all Americans to 
prove to law enforcement that they are not terrorists, we should be 
focusing our resources on measures that really will make us safer. For 
starters, we should take a look at our dangerously porous and unguarded 
borders. We have seen already this summer how easy it is for individuals 
possibly seeking to do us harm to sneak across the border into our 
country. In July, Pakistani citizen Farida Goolam Mahomed Ahmed, who is 
on the federal watch list, reportedly crossed illegally into Texas from 
Mexico. She was later arrested when she tried to board a plane in New 
York, but she should have never been able to cross our border in the 
first place!

We must take effective measures to protect ourselves from a terrorist 
attack. That does not mean rushing to embrace legislation that in the 
long run will do little to stop terrorism, but will do a great deal to 
undermine the very way of life we should be protecting. Just as we must 
not allow terrorists to threaten our lives, we must not allow government 
to threaten our liberties. We should reject the notion of a national 
identification card.


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 face="Times New Roman" size="5">&nbsp;<o:p> Reject the National ID Card</o:p>
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<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><br>
Washington politicians are once again seriously considering imposing a
national
identification card - and it may well become law before the end of the
108th
Congress. The much-hailed 9/11 Commission report released in July
recommends a
federal identification card and, worse, a "larger network of screening
points"<i> inside</i> the United States. Does this mean we are to have
"screening points" inside our country where American citizens will be
required to "show their papers" to government officials? It certainly
sounds that way! <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">As I have written
recently, the 9/11 Commission is nothing more than ex-government
officials and
lobbyists advising current government officials that we need more
government for
America to be safe. Yet it was that same government that failed so
miserably on
September 11, 2001. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">Congress has embraced
the 9/11 Commission report uncritically since its release in July. Now
Congress
is rushing to write each 9/11 Commission recommendation into law before
the
November election. In the same way Congress rushed to pass the PATRIOT
Act after
the September 11 attacks to be seen "doing something," it looks like
Congress is about to make the same mistake again of rushing to pass
liberty-destroying legislation without stopping to consider the
consequences.
Because it is so controversial, we may see legislation mandating a
national
identification card with biometric identifiers hidden in bills
implementing 9/11
Commission recommendations. We have seen this technique used in the
past on
controversial measures. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">A national
identification card, in whatever form it may take, will allow the
federal
government to inappropriately monitor the movements and transactions of
every
American. History shows that governments inevitably use the power to
monitor the
actions of people in harmful ways. Claims that the government will
protect the
privacy of Americans when implementing a national identification card
ring
hollow. We would do well to remember what happened with the Social
Security
number. It was introduced with solemn restrictions on how it could be
used, but
it has become a de facto national identifier.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span><o:p></o:p>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">Those who are willing
to allow the government to establish a Soviet-style internal passport
system
because they think it will make us safer are terribly mistaken.
Subjecting every
citizen to surveillance and "screening points" will actually make us
less safe, not in the least because it will divert resources away from
tracking
and apprehending terrorists and deploy them against innocent Americans!
<o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">The federal government
has no constitutional authority to require law-abiding Americans to
present any
form of identification before they engage in private transactions.
Instead of
forcing all Americans to prove to law enforcement that they are not
terrorists,
we should be focusing our resources on measures that really will make
us safer.
For starters, we should take a look at our dangerously porous and
unguarded
borders. We have seen already this summer how easy it is for
individuals
possibly seeking to do us harm to sneak across the border into our
country. In
July, Pakistani citizen Farida Goolam Mahomed Ahmed, who is on the
federal watch
list, reportedly crossed illegally into Texas from Mexico. She was
later
arrested when she tried to board a plane in New York, but she should
have never
been able to cross our border in the first place! <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">We must take effective
measures to protect ourselves from a terrorist attack. That does not
mean
rushing to embrace legislation that in the long run will do little to
stop
terrorism, but will do a great deal to undermine the very way of life
we should
be protecting. Just as we must not allow terrorists to threaten our
lives, we
must not allow government to threaten our liberties. We should reject
the notion
of a national identification card.</span></p>
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Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#93
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Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem brain-fog,
and Sufficate.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#95
Author: DrPostman
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:37
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:08:45 -0500, "Anonymous" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote NONE OF THE FOLLOWING:

>Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem brain-fog,
>and Sufficate.
>


You're an alcoholic, right?

Is that why you are afraid to use your own nick or name?







--
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Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
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Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#97
Author: Pupea
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:15
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"DrPostman" <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
news:ve82k05jmuost6o4stgtt2fojhdjd1a3iu@4ax.com...
September 10, 2004

The NORML E-Zine is a free weekly compilation of major news items regarding
marijuana hazards. Text of archived stories is available on NORML's website,
with a picture of our 34 year old leader Allen St. Pierre:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040204/capt.2020404au.jpg

Donate today to NORML's long-standing efforts to educate people on the
dangers of Pot use!
http://www.screenagercentral.com/summit/right_angle/

Sign up for NORML's monthly pledge program today, and know the health risks!
http://www.skincareindia.com/index-cid-19-pid-1960.html

Gay and Lesbian Support NORML.  Since Cannabis use causes suppression of
testosterone, it causes male Breast growth on young men, typically tripling
in size or more, and also the repression of male-female sexual function.
This leads to the conclusion that with daily Cannabis use over long periods,
straights become chemically more like gays and slowly change to being gay.
Because of this, Cannabis use is happily recommended by most Gay and Lesbian
Organizations and they also fully support NAMBLA, an organization for free
sexual expression. Check it out, it is on their website,

http://216.220.97.17/ and http://www.nambla.org





The News:

Cannabis link to mental illness strengthened

23:01 21 November 02, 2003

NewScientist.com news service

The link between regular cannabis use and later depression and schizophrenia
has been significantly strengthened by three new studies. The studies
provide "little support" for an alternative explanation - that people with
mental illnesses self-medicate with marijuana - according to Joseph Rey and
Christopher Tennant of the University of Sydney, who have written an
editorial on the papers in the British Medical Journal.

One of the key conclusions of the research is that people who start smoking
cannabis as adolescents are at the greatest risk of later developing mental
health problems. Another team calculates that eliminating cannabis use in
the UK population could reduce cases of schizophrenia by 13 per cent.

Until now, say Rey and Tennant, there was "a dearth of reliable evidence" to
support the idea that cannabis use could cause schizophrenia or depression.
That lack of good evidence "has handicapped the development of rational
public health policies," according to one of the research groups, led by
George Patton at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute in Melbourne,
Australia. The works also highlights potential risks associated with using
cannabis as a medicine to ease the symptoms of muscular sclerosis, for
example.

Pharmacological effect

Patton's team followed over 1600 Australian school pupils aged 14 to 15 for
seven years. Daily cannabis use was associated with a five-fold increased
risk of depression at the age of 20. Weekly use was linked to a two-fold
increase. The regular users were no more likely to have suffered from
depression or anxiety at the start of the study.

The reason for the link is unclear. Social consequences of frequent cannabis
use include educational failure and unemployment, which could increase the
risk of depression. "However, because the risk seems confined largely to
daily users, the question about a direct pharmacological effect remains,"
says Patton.


In separate research, a team led by Stanley Zammit at the University of
Cardiff, UK, evaluated data on over 50,000 men who had been Swedish military
conscripts in 1979 and 2001. This group represents 97 per cent of men aged
18 to 20 in the population at that time. The new analysis revealed a
dose-dependant relationship between the frequency of cannabis use and
schizophrenia. This held true in men with no psychotic symptoms before they
started using cannabis, suggesting they were not self-medicating.

Genetic factors

Finally, researchers led by Terrie Moffitt at King's College London, UK,
analysed comprehensive data on over 1000 people born in Dunedin, New Zealand
in 1992 and 2003.

They found that people who used cannabis by age 15 were four times as likely
to have a diagnosis of schizophreniform disorder (a milder version of
schizophrenia) at age 26 than non-users.

But when the number of psychotic symptoms at age 11 was controlled for, this
increased risk dropped to become non-significant. This suggests that people
already at greater risk of later developing mental health problems are also
more likely to smoke cannabis. The total number of high quality studies on
cannabis use and mental health disorders remains small, stress Rey and
Tennant. And it is still not clear whether cannabis can cause these
conditions in people not predisposed by genetic factors, for example, to
develop them. "The overall weight of evidence is that occasional use of
cannabis has few harmful effects overall," Zammit's team writes.
"Nevertheless, our results indicate a potentially serious risk to the mental
health of people who use cannabis. Such risks need to be considered in the
current move to liberalise and possibly legalise the use of cannabis in the
UK and other countries." Journal references: British Medical Journal (vol
325, p1195, p1199, p1212, p1183)

Chronic marijuana users are said to develop an "amotivational syndrome"
characterized by passivity, decreased motivation and preoccupation with drug
taking. The relationship of this syndrome to marijuana use, however, has no
been established.

Like alcohol intoxication, marijuana intoxication impairs reading
comprehension, memory, speech, problem-solving ability and reaction time.
Consistent evidence that marijuana induces or causes extensive brain damage
does not exist yet. Medical researchers were studying the effectiveness of
the drug in relieving some of the symptoms of glaucoma and in treating the
nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy and radiation treatments, but
conclusions have been negative.

Are there any other adverse reactions to marijuana?

A common bad reaction to marijuana is the "acute panic anxiety reaction."
People describe this reaction as an extreme fear of "losing control," which
causes panic. The symptoms usually disappear in a few hours.

What about psychological dependence on marijuana?


Long-term regular users of marijuana generally become psychologically
dependent. They may have a hard time limiting their use, they may need more
of the drug to get the same effect, and they develop problems with their
jobs and personal relationships. The drug can become the most important
aspect of their lives. Many display severe symptoms of Bipolar Affective
disorder within one year of continued use.

What are the dangers for young people?


One major concern about marijuana is its possible effects on young people as
they grow up. Research shows that the earlier people start using drugs, the
more likely they are to go on to experiment with other drugs. In addition,
when young people start using marijuana regularly, they often lose interest
and are not motivated to do their schoolwork. The effects of marijuana can
interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and
verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students do not remember
what they have learned when they are "high".

How does marijuana affect driving ability?


Driving experiments show that marijuana affects a wide range of skills
needed for safe driving -- thinking and reflexes are slowed, making it hard
for drivers to respond to sudden, unexpected events. Also, a driver's
ability to "track" (stay in lane) through curves, to brake quickly, and to
maintain speed and the proper distance between cars is affected. Research
shows that these skills are impaired for at least 4-6 hours after smoking a
single marijuana cigarette, long after the "high" is gone. If a person
drinks alcohol, along with using marijuana, the risk of an accident greatly
increases. Marijuana presents a definite danger on the road.

Does marijuana affect the human reproductive system?


Some research studies suggest that the use of marijuana during pregnancy may
result in premature babies and in low birth weights. Studies of men and
women may have a temporary loss of fertility. These findings suggest that
marijuana may be especially harmful during adolescence, a period of rapid
physical and sexual development.

How does marijuana affect the heart?


Marijuana use increases the heart rate as much as 50 percent, depending on
the amount of THC. It can cause chest pain in people who have a poor blood
supply to the heart - and it produces these effects more rapidly than
tobacco smoke does.

How does marijuana affect the lungs?


Scientists believe that marijuana can be especially harmful to the lungs
because users often inhale the unfiltered smoke deeply and hold it in their
lungs as long as possible. Therefore, the smoke is in contact with lung
tissues for long periods of time, which irritates the lungs and damages the
way they work. Marijuana smoke contains some of the same ingredients in
tobacco smoke that can cause emphysema and cancer. In addition, many
marijuana users also smoke cigarettes; the combined effects of smoking these
two substances creates an increased health risk.

Can marijuana cause cancer?


Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is
found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been
exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed
cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In
laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when
applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that
marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.

How are people usually introduced to marijuana?


Many young people are introduced to marijuana by their peers - usually
acquaintances, friends, sisters, and brothers. People often try drugs such
as marijuana because they feel pressured by peers to be part of the group.
Children must be taught how to say no to peer pressure to try drugs. Parents
can get involved by becoming informed about marijuana and by talking to
their children about drug use.

What is marijuana "burnout"?


"Burnout" is a term first used by marijuana smokers themselves to describe
the effect of prolonged use. Young people who smoke marijuana heavily over
long periods of time can become dull, slow moving, and inattentive. These
"burned-out" users are sometimes so unaware of their surroundings that they
do not respond when friends speak to them, and they do not realize they have
a problem.

How long do chemicals from marijuana stay in the body after the drug is
smoked?


When marijuana is smoked, THC, its active ingredient, is absorbed by most
tissues and organs in the body; however, it is primarily found in fat
tissues. The body, in its attempt to rid itself of the foreign chemical,
chemically transforms the THC into metabolites. Urine tests can detect THC
metabolites for up to a week after people have smoked marijuana. Tests
involving radioactively labeled THC have traced these metabolites in animals
for up to a month. Most

Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 2004.

--
Dr.Postman IQ<50, MIC, KEY; "Disgruntled, And Uneducated"
Shempber, Bored of Directors of SEPTIC-CUNT� member
#15-51506-1253. NAMBLA Board Member.
You can email me at: DrJaiMaharaj(at)hotmail.com

"Proves you are an idiot!"
- Ferret Brain displays his lost brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#99
Author: DrPostman
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:11
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:15:32 -0500, "Pupea" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem brain-fog,
>and Sufficate.
>


You're an alcoholic, right?

Is that why you are afraid to use your own nick or name?








--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com

"Prooves your a idiot!"
  - Ferrt displays his brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#101
Author: Pupea
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:18
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14112 bytes
NORML WEBSITE IS MONITORED BY GOV.
All visitors that visit the site are recorded and added to Police database.
Don't think so? Just try to remove the cookies that it puts on your
computer, you can't.


"DrPostman" <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
news:o6l2k0l7hvacdrpk9c2t4isco9e3tv8ken@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:12:55 -0500, "Pupea" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Thank you "DrPostman" <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >news:0c82k0t3gsmt0pi0qroe309h3ac71l783o@4ax.com...
>
> --
> Dr.Posttosties USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Stupid"
> Member,Board of Directors, NAMBIA, SEPTIC-TI-CUNT� #5-51506-253.
> AFLA-B Official Dumpster & Hammer of Thelma winer Aug 1954
> You can email me at: DrfuckheadPostman(at)gmail.com
>
> "Prooves Im a idiot!"
>   - Ferrt displays his stupidity


You are a forger and a fake.

You are a front for the Government and FBI collecting names of those who
visit the NORML website.  The site places cookies on computers that cannot
be removed, identifying the person.



September 10, 2004

The NORML E-Zine is a free weekly compilation of major news items regarding
marijuana hazards. Text of archived stories is available on NORML's website,
with a picture of our 34 year old leader Allen St. Pierre:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040204/capt.2020404au.jpg

Donate today to NORML's long-standing efforts to educate people on the
dangers of Pot use!
http://www.screenagercentral.com/summit/right_angle/

Sign up for NORML's monthly pledge program today, and know the health risks!
http://www.skincareindia.com/index-cid-19-pid-1960.html

Gay and Lesbian Support NORML.  Since Cannabis use causes suppression of
testosterone, it causes male Breast growth on young men, typically tripling
in size or more, and also the repression of male-female sexual function.
This leads to the conclusion that with daily Cannabis use over long periods,
straights become chemically more like gays and slowly change to being gay.
Because of this, Cannabis use is happily recommended by most Gay and Lesbian
Organizations and they also fully support NAMBLA, an organization for free
sexual expression. Check it out, it is on their website,

http://216.220.97.17/ and http://www.nambla.org





The News:

Cannabis link to mental illness strengthened

23:01 21 November 02, 2003

NewScientist.com news service

The link between regular cannabis use and later depression and schizophrenia
has been significantly strengthened by three new studies. The studies
provide "little support" for an alternative explanation - that people with
mental illnesses self-medicate with marijuana - according to Joseph Rey and
Christopher Tennant of the University of Sydney, who have written an
editorial on the papers in the British Medical Journal.

One of the key conclusions of the research is that people who start smoking
cannabis as adolescents are at the greatest risk of later developing mental
health problems. Another team calculates that eliminating cannabis use in
the UK population could reduce cases of schizophrenia by 13 per cent.

Until now, say Rey and Tennant, there was "a dearth of reliable evidence" to
support the idea that cannabis use could cause schizophrenia or depression.
That lack of good evidence "has handicapped the development of rational
public health policies," according to one of the research groups, led by
George Patton at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute in Melbourne,
Australia. The works also highlights potential risks associated with using
cannabis as a medicine to ease the symptoms of muscular sclerosis, for
example.

Pharmacological effect

Patton's team followed over 1600 Australian school pupils aged 14 to 15 for
seven years. Daily cannabis use was associated with a five-fold increased
risk of depression at the age of 20. Weekly use was linked to a two-fold
increase. The regular users were no more likely to have suffered from
depression or anxiety at the start of the study.

The reason for the link is unclear. Social consequences of frequent cannabis
use include educational failure and unemployment, which could increase the
risk of depression. "However, because the risk seems confined largely to
daily users, the question about a direct pharmacological effect remains,"
says Patton.


In separate research, a team led by Stanley Zammit at the University of
Cardiff, UK, evaluated data on over 50,000 men who had been Swedish military
conscripts in 1979 and 2001. This group represents 97 per cent of men aged
18 to 20 in the population at that time. The new analysis revealed a
dose-dependant relationship between the frequency of cannabis use and
schizophrenia. This held true in men with no psychotic symptoms before they
started using cannabis, suggesting they were not self-medicating.

Genetic factors

Finally, researchers led by Terrie Moffitt at King's College London, UK,
analysed comprehensive data on over 1000 people born in Dunedin, New Zealand
in 1992 and 2003.

They found that people who used cannabis by age 15 were four times as likely
to have a diagnosis of schizophreniform disorder (a milder version of
schizophrenia) at age 26 than non-users.

But when the number of psychotic symptoms at age 11 was controlled for, this
increased risk dropped to become non-significant. This suggests that people
already at greater risk of later developing mental health problems are also
more likely to smoke cannabis. The total number of high quality studies on
cannabis use and mental health disorders remains small, stress Rey and
Tennant. And it is still not clear whether cannabis can cause these
conditions in people not predisposed by genetic factors, for example, to
develop them. "The overall weight of evidence is that occasional use of
cannabis has few harmful effects overall," Zammit's team writes.
"Nevertheless, our results indicate a potentially serious risk to the mental
health of people who use cannabis. Such risks need to be considered in the
current move to liberalise and possibly legalise the use of cannabis in the
UK and other countries." Journal references: British Medical Journal (vol
325, p1195, p1199, p1212, p1183)

Chronic marijuana users are said to develop an "amotivational syndrome"
characterized by passivity, decreased motivation and preoccupation with drug
taking. The relationship of this syndrome to marijuana use, however, has no
been established.

Like alcohol intoxication, marijuana intoxication impairs reading
comprehension, memory, speech, problem-solving ability and reaction time.
Consistent evidence that marijuana induces or causes extensive brain damage
does not exist yet. Medical researchers were studying the effectiveness of
the drug in relieving some of the symptoms of glaucoma and in treating the
nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy and radiation treatments, but
conclusions have been negative.

Are there any other adverse reactions to marijuana?

A common bad reaction to marijuana is the "acute panic anxiety reaction."
People describe this reaction as an extreme fear of "losing control," which
causes panic. The symptoms usually disappear in a few hours.

What about psychological dependence on marijuana?


Long-term regular users of marijuana generally become psychologically
dependent. They may have a hard time limiting their use, they may need more
of the drug to get the same effect, and they develop problems with their
jobs and personal relationships. The drug can become the most important
aspect of their lives. Many display severe symptoms of Bipolar Affective
disorder within one year of continued use.

What are the dangers for young people?


One major concern about marijuana is its possible effects on young people as
they grow up. Research shows that the earlier people start using drugs, the
more likely they are to go on to experiment with other drugs. In addition,
when young people start using marijuana regularly, they often lose interest
and are not motivated to do their schoolwork. The effects of marijuana can
interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and
verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students do not remember
what they have learned when they are "high".

How does marijuana affect driving ability?


Driving experiments show that marijuana affects a wide range of skills
needed for safe driving -- thinking and reflexes are slowed, making it hard
for drivers to respond to sudden, unexpected events. Also, a driver's
ability to "track" (stay in lane) through curves, to brake quickly, and to
maintain speed and the proper distance between cars is affected. Research
shows that these skills are impaired for at least 4-6 hours after smoking a
single marijuana cigarette, long after the "high" is gone. If a person
drinks alcohol, along with using marijuana, the risk of an accident greatly
increases. Marijuana presents a definite danger on the road.

Does marijuana affect the human reproductive system?


Some research studies suggest that the use of marijuana during pregnancy may
result in premature babies and in low birth weights. Studies of men and
women may have a temporary loss of fertility. These findings suggest that
marijuana may be especially harmful during adolescence, a period of rapid
physical and sexual development.

How does marijuana affect the heart?


Marijuana use increases the heart rate as much as 50 percent, depending on
the amount of THC. It can cause chest pain in people who have a poor blood
supply to the heart - and it produces these effects more rapidly than
tobacco smoke does.

How does marijuana affect the lungs?


Scientists believe that marijuana can be especially harmful to the lungs
because users often inhale the unfiltered smoke deeply and hold it in their
lungs as long as possible. Therefore, the smoke is in contact with lung
tissues for long periods of time, which irritates the lungs and damages the
way they work. Marijuana smoke contains some of the same ingredients in
tobacco smoke that can cause emphysema and cancer. In addition, many
marijuana users also smoke cigarettes; the combined effects of smoking these
two substances creates an increased health risk.

Can marijuana cause cancer?


Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is
found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been
exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed
cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In
laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when
applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that
marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.

How are people usually introduced to marijuana?


Many young people are introduced to marijuana by their peers - usually
acquaintances, friends, sisters, and brothers. People often try drugs such
as marijuana because they feel pressured by peers to be part of the group.
Children must be taught how to say no to peer pressure to try drugs. Parents
can get involved by becoming informed about marijuana and by talking to
their children about drug use.

What is marijuana "burnout"?


"Burnout" is a term first used by marijuana smokers themselves to describe
the effect of prolonged use. Young people who smoke marijuana heavily over
long periods of time can become dull, slow moving, and inattentive. These
"burned-out" users are sometimes so unaware of their surroundings that they
do not respond when friends speak to them, and they do not realize they have
a problem.

How long do chemicals from marijuana stay in the body after the drug is
smoked?


When marijuana is smoked, THC, its active ingredient, is absorbed by most
tissues and organs in the body; however, it is primarily found in fat
tissues. The body, in its attempt to rid itself of the foreign chemical,
chemically transforms the THC into metabolites. Urine tests can detect THC
metabolites for up to a week after people have smoked marijuana. Tests
involving radioactively labeled THC have traced these metabolites in animals
for up to a month. Most

Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 2004.

--
Dr.Postman IQ<50, MIC, KEY; "Disgruntled, And Uneducated"
Shempber, Bored of Directors of SEPTIC-CUNT� member
#15-51506-1253. NAMBLA Board Member.
You can email me at: DrJaiMaharaj(at)hotmail.com

"Proves you are an idiot!"
- Ferret Brain displays his lost brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#102
Author: A1
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:06
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"DrPostman" Looky@my.foreskin wrote in message
news:f9l2k010edo79qpgco2hpqffp4fhdt0pb0@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:15:32 -0500, "zomba" <DrPostman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem
brain-fog,
> >and Sufficate.
> >
>
>
> You're an alcoholic, right?
>
> Is that why you are afraid to use your own nick or name?
>

 --
> Dr.Posttosties USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Stupid"
> Member,Board of Directors, NAMBIA, SEPTIC-TI-CUNT� #5-51506-253.
> AFLA-B Official Dumpster & Hammer of Thelma winer Aug 1954
> You can email me at: DrfuckheadPostman(at)gmail.com
>
> "Prooves Im a idiot!"
>   - Ferrt displays his stupidity


According to your logic, You are an Alcoholic, as you are afraid to use your
own name.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#104
Author: DrPostman
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:07
47 lines
3012 bytes
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:06:11 -0500, "A1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"DrPostman" Looky@my.foreskin wrote in message
>news:f9l2k010edo79qpgco2hpqffp4fhdt0pb0@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:15:32 -0500, "zomba" <DrPostman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem
>brain-fog,
>> >and Sufficate.
>> >
>>
>>
>> You're an alcoholic, right?
>>
>> Is that why you are afraid to use your own nick or name?


>According to your logic, You are an Alcoholic, as you are afraid to use your
>own name.
>

But that isn't true, as the folks in alt.fan.art-bell know my name. A
posting history will show that I have posted that several times.
And I have never used someone else's nick, like this clown has.
Google me and see for yourself.

If you accuse me of that kind of logic, how is it that it doesn't
apply to you?



This guy's a clown, I have an established 8 year history on Usenet.






--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com

"Prooves your a idiot!"
  - Ferrt displays his brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#183
Author: DrPostman
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:10
43 lines
2968 bytes
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:18:57 -0500, "Pupea" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>NORML WEBSITE IS MONITORED BY GOV.
>All visitors that visit the site are recorded and added to Police database.
>Don't think so? Just try to remove the cookies that it puts on your
>computer, you can't.

Freemasons hide under your bed at night too.

If you had a program like WinPatrol you wouldn't 
have to be paranoid over cookies.


>> "Prooves Im a idiot!"
>>   - Ferrt displays his stupidity

You don't get that bit at all.  Not surprising.  Your altering
it doesn't actually change the point of that quote, dumbass.


>You are a forger and a fake.

Says the kook who posted with my nick.


>You are a front for the Government and FBI collecting names of those who
>visit the NORML website.  The site places cookies on computers that cannot
>be removed, identifying the person.

Then why are you posting US government reports?





--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com

"Prooves your a idiot!"
  - Ferrt displays his brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#106
Author: Pupea
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:48
228 lines
7533 bytes
"DrPostman" <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
news:lsg3k0hnbltbaq721pgq4mcna3tf0fg3v5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:06:11 -0500, "A1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"DrPostman" Looky@my.foreskin wrote in message
> >news:f9l2k010edo79qpgco2hpqffp4fhdt0pb0@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:15:32 -0500, "zomba" <DrPostman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem
> >brain-fog,
> >> >and Sufficate.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> You're an alcoholic, right?
> >>
> >> Is that why you are afraid to use your own nick or name?
>
>
> >According to your logic, You are an Alcoholic, as you are afraid to use
your
> >own name.
> >
>
> But that isn't true, as the folks in alt.fan.art-bell know my name. A
> posting history will show that I have posted that several times.
> And I have never used someone else's nick, like this clown has.
> Google me and see for yourself.
>
> If you accuse me of that kind of logic, how is it that it doesn't
> apply to you?
>
>
>
> This guy's a clown, I have an established 8 year history on Usenet.
>
>
>


So what is your real name monkey?     Put up or shut up.

Or are you too stoned or drunk to type?

Yea, you have a history on the Usenet as a shallow and retarted  KooK(see
below),,
That is a result of you smoking dope and drinking all the time;
You are a loser at life, so end it now, so we can have more bandwidth on the
internet.
*nobody*  gives a shit about you turd, you are too trivial.




From: "DrPostman"
Newsgroups:
alt.alien.visitors,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.fucknozzles
Subject: Re: DrPostman disgruntled but unarmed retard :


In article <7nihd0pdhumeibemtlf67jme0enf080dsi@4ax.com>, DrPostman
 wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:59:55 -0600, "C.R. Osterwald"
> wrote:
>
> >In article , Charles D.
> >Bohne  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:28:02 +0200, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Daymn!  I thought I was Tim Hill.
> >> >>
> >> >Again?
> >>
> >> Last time he told us he was "Napol�on"!
> >
> >Who is "us", Chuckles?
>
>
> Who is this idiot anyway, and why aren't his posts showing up.  Is
> he cutting groups like Pietie does?

A strange person that inhabits AAV and who likes to suck up to Alexa's
kook ravings.  And yes, he snecks newsgroups just like Pietro does.
Chuckles has been nominated for CotM for June.


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Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, Antagonist, Gubmint Disinformation
Agent, "Dr. Green" Sockpuppet, and Chief AFA-B Vote Rustler.

From: Aratzio
Newsgroups:
sci.psychology.psychotherapy,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.
flonk,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Slut Aratzio not worth the energy


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:56:28 GMT, Iceman <1c3m4n@chi-mafia.org> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:17:07 +1000, Jolly Swagman wrote:
>
>> From :  Aratzio
>> Message-ID :
>>
>>
>>
>>>Unless you bring me in your k00ksuit
>>
>> Why would anyone bother wasting energy on a useless slut like you huh?
>>
>> It would be more convenient for Lynne to pay some hump 50 dollars
>> to bring her *your* ears in a brown sandwich bag
>>
>> I hope Lynne pays a little extra for sound, so she can hear you
>> squeeeel like the *stoopid* pavement slut you are when it happens
>>
>> Pissoff *stoopid* and do your slut strut elsewhere
>
>*snicker* not worth the effort, eh?
>
>Multiple worshiping poast from you follows?
>
>Yuppers.

Ownership is its own reward. You know you own them when all they can
do is poast about how unimportant you are. You think he has the
ability to send a cmsg and create a fanboi newsfroup in my honor?

So you think Dudley Do Right (Two Bit)  is a little upset at Snidley
Whiplash's (Me)  treatment of Nell Fenwick (Goofy)?

Will Nell ever leave the horse (Horse) for Dudley?

So who the hell is playing Inspector Fenwick?

'Ratz


--

A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
Accept No Substitute

From: "C.R. Osterwald"
Newsgroups:
alt.alien.visitors,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.fucknozzles
Subject: Re: DrPostman the punk-coward


In article , Charles D.
Bohne  wrote:

Forwarded to relevant ngs so the Doc will see it:

> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:21:05 GMT, DrPostman  wrote:
>
> >I've proven that you snip groups.  That is the act of a coward.
>
> Hey Postman, you are a complete asshole.
> Most providers prevent cross-posting! This one does!
> And, moreover, I really don't know why I should post to
> KooK-groups.
> So if you want to talk with me, do it here - or get lost.
> Charles

Hey Chuckles, net.kkkoping again?  The Doc doesn't read AAV, so why are
you bothering to reply?


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Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, Antagonist, Gubmint Disinformation
Agent, "Dr. Green" Sockpuppet, and Chief AFA-B Vote Rustler.

From: "C.R. Osterwald"
Newsgroups:
alt.alien.visitors,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.fucknozzles
Subject: Re: DrPostman disgruntled but unarmed retard and Bob Officer aka
Agent Smith wrote:


In article , Charles D.
Bohne  wrote:

[snecked ngs restored]

> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:05:03 GMT, DrPostman  wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:59:55 -0600, "C.R. Osterwald"
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article , Charles D.
> >>Bohne  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:28:02 +0200, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >> Daymn!  I thought I was Tim Hill.
> >>> >>
> >>> >Again?
> >>>
> >>> Last time he told us he was "Napol�on"!
> >>
> >>Who is "us", Chuckles?
> >
> >
> >Who is this idiot anyway, and why aren't his posts showing up.  Is
> >he cutting groups like Pietie does?
>
> Do you miss any posts, David?
> They are all here in a.a.visitors.
> HTH.
> Carl

You've been slurping Alexa too long, her contagion seems to have taken
hold in you, Chuckles.


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Agent, "Dr. Green" Sockpuppet, and Chief AFA-B Vote Rustler.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#184
Author: DrPostman
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:25
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:48:30 -0500, "Pupea" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"DrPostman" <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
>news:lsg3k0hnbltbaq721pgq4mcna3tf0fg3v5@4ax.com...

>> This guy's a clown, I have an established 8 year history on Usenet.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>So what is your real name monkey?     Put up or shut up.

Are you too stupid to use Google?


>Or are you too stoned or drunk to type?

You really are too stupid to use Google.


>Yea, you have a history on the Usenet as a shallow and retarted  KooK(see
>below),,
>That is a result of you smoking dope and drinking all the time;
>You are a loser at life, so end it now, so we can have more bandwidth on the
>internet.
>*nobody*  gives a shit about you turd, you are too trivial.


Awwwwww, the poor baby feels sorry for kooks.
AUK added because they might sympathize with you.

And do continue to show your stupidity.  You're very 
entertaining, even for a German.






--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com

"Prooves your a idiot!"
  - Ferrt displays his brilliance
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#118
Author: Michael Hearne
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:31
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Anonymous wrote:

> Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem brain-fog,
> and Sufficate.
> 
> 

Looks to us that you might be the one in a fog - why don't you go 
and have a nice seek-help salad, it might clear out some of that 
pollution you've been sniffing.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#119
Author: Anonymous
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:12
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"Michael Hearne" <nobody@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:6dp1d.569$n16.320@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Anonymous wrote:
>
> > Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem
brain-fog,
> > and Sufficate.
> >
> >
>
> Looks to us that you might be the one in a fog - why don't you go
> and have a nice seek-help salad, it might clear out some of that
> pollution you've been sniffing.

May your weed and your salad turn you completly into a plant.
You already have the IQ of one.
Re: [NORML News of the Week 9/4/04]
#179
Author: DrPostman
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:24
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:12:13 -0500, "Anonymous" <zzzz@zzzzzzzzzzz.com>
wrote:

>
>"Michael Hearne" <nobody@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
>news:6dp1d.569$n16.320@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Anonymous wrote:
>>
>> > Stupid Stoners, Stay off the Street, Stationary in your Self-chem
>brain-fog,
>> > and Sufficate.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Looks to us that you might be the one in a fog - why don't you go
>> and have a nice seek-help salad, it might clear out some of that
>> pollution you've been sniffing.
>
>May your weed and your salad turn you completly into a plant.
>You already have the IQ of one.
>


At least he has an IQ.  Should he tell you what it's like?






--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;  "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT� #15-51506-253. 
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner Aug04
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com

"Prooves your a idiot!"
  - Ferrt displays his brilliance
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