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Article #110Re: LAWYER AS LAWMAKER COP JUDGE & JURY
From: soundy
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00
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In <allisat-0907960200020001@voyager10.lglobal.com>, allisat@lglobal.com (Bob Allisat) writes:
>
> iSTAR, a company in Canada, has removed dozens of UseNet
> Newsgroups which they have been advised by their ill informed
> lawyers are illegal. No charges have *ever* been laid and
> no court has acted in any way shape or form against anyone.
>
> In it's actions iSTAR has followed the unfortunate precedent
> and have viewed dubious corporate doss bag of shit lawyer's
> advice as sufficient grounds to censor ALL their clients.
> Once again we see lawyers involved as de facto lawmaker,
> cop, judge and jury. And companies acting on flawed legal
> grounds WITHOUT REGARD to the defense of all of our human
> rights and civil liberties. This is utterly unacceptable.
>
> Corporate assets take precedence over our rights and
> freedoms as citizens and we are slowly losing ground in
> the battle over the electronic media. Losing to people
> who put their fucking machines and gross profits over and
> above our interests. People who would control our every
> move, monitor our every communication if they could and
> if it meant more money. Fuck them all.
Blah blah blah blah about c*nsorship.
Bob... what about iStar's rights and freedoms to run their business as
they see fit?
No-one is being FORCED to do anything here. iStar is a company
providing a service, in business for the sole purpose of making a
profit. That's what businesses do. It's the whole reason they exist.
So they've decided to not provide access to certain information.
The reasons are irrelevant; in this case they're doing it for their own
protection (an ounce of prevention), but it could just as easily be
because of the personal tastes of someone high up in the company, or
because they simply don't care about catering to that portion of their
customer base.
Fine then. Fuck them. Take your business and your money elsewhere, to
a company that provides the services you want. But don't give us this
"censorship" bullshit.
I can't walk into a Save-On store and buy Safeway brand milk. Do I
scream "censorship!"? Do I accuse Save-On of caring only about their
profits and not about my desire to buy milk in a carton labelled with
the Safeway logo? No. I just take my money and go to Safeway instead.
What do you do for a living, Bob? Do you provide a service of some
sort? Should I accuse YOU of profitmongering and censorship if you
don't provide the service *I* think you should provide? Maybe I think
you're shit for not giving me what I want. Maybe I'll rant and cry
about it and piss off everyone around me and try to drive you into the
ground, instead of just finding someone who WILL provide the services I
need.
Go away.
Your friend and mine,
Matt
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