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Article #142Re: LAWYER AS LAWMAKER COP JUDGE & JURY
From: T. Gorman
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:00
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sl@whiskey.wimsey.com (Stuart Lynne) wrote: >In article <sfoy-0907961810370001@cell.zoology.ubc.ca>, >Shaun Foy <sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca> wrote: >>In article <4rur64$42u@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, lalee@vcn.bc.ca (Lawrence Lee) wrote: >> >>> Shaun Foy (sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca) wrote: >>> [...] >> >>I think that my argument is pretty simple and very logical. It works >>like this: >> >> Q. Does the ISP stand a reasonable chance that they will be involved >> in a litigation because they distribute newsgroup X.X.X. >> >> If the answer is YES -> drop the newsgroup >> If the answer is NO -> keep the newsgroup >> >>My argument does not rely on making any moral decisions. I agree that >>is a very contentious area and I don't care to argue on the point since >>I don't think I am a model of our moralistic society. (who is?) >>My argument only relies on one thing - cost. How much money will it cost >>an ISP to provide the newsgroups? Well, if they end up spending tens >>or hundreds of thousands of dollars and being driven out of business >>then I think that is too high a cost to pay. >> >>I think that you will find most business' are more intersted in making >>money than fighting social/moral battles. >Unfortunately it's not litigation we worry about but having to defend >against a criminal prosecution either at the corporate or personal level. >ISP's every where would welcome guidlines from our legistlators. >Simply because if we know what the law says we will follow it and lobby to >have it changed if it is too draconian. Unfortunately we are in the position >of having a vague suspicion that we might be breaking the law with no >guidelines to follow. >Kind of like driving down a road with no posted limit. Just signs that >say "caution speed limit enforced by radar" with the local constabulary able >to pull you over for going over whatever they decide is the correct >speed at *that* point in time. Their claim that you are speeding might never >hold up in court, but you still waste time and money defending yourself >against the prosecution. Sounds like photo radar to me. 10 over one day is OK, 15 over the next is OK, $100 fine the next day for 11 over. What's the fine for $200 million over, Glen? >-- >Stuart Lynne <sl@wimsey.com> 604-933-1000 <http://www.wimsey.com> >PGP Fingerprint: 28 E2 A0 15 99 62 9A 00 88 EC A3 EE 2D 1C 15 68
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc3d0,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gidfc3d0,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 114af9,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gid114af9,public X-Google-Thread: 1083bf,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gid1083bf,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,90d13f7a863f087a X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 103731,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gid103731,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,f8bab2bf5ee053cc X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public From: tns@mindlink.bc.ca (T. Gorman) Subject: Re: LAWYER AS LAWMAKER COP JUDGE & JURY Date: 1996/07/12 Message-ID: <4s4kcg$egu@fountain.mindlink.net> X-Deja-AN: 167919265 distribution: inet references: <31db3548.17224920@nnrp.tor.hookup.net> <sfoy-0907961554000001@cell.zoology.ubc.ca> <4rur64$42u@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <sfoy-0907961810370001@cell.zoology.ubc.ca> <4rvr0i$e2j@wolfe.wimsey.com> organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada newsgroups: torfree.general,tor.general,mtl.general,van.general,ont.general,bc.general,can.infohighway,can.legal,can.general,soc.culture.usenet,alt.news.media,soc.culture.canada,io.general,eye.general,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.org.cpsr.talk