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Article #175Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?
From: Graham Bullers
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:00
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I allso read the headers,that is why I wrote he is fucked in the head. Gee guys emperor has no clothes or you only hear what you want to hear. Hello Kittyhawk (bdb@GTS.Net) wrote: : In article <199807142230.AAA30365@basement.replay.com>, : R Brown <me@NOSPAMistar.ca> wrote: : |This posting deals with a number of related issues expressed in : |several current or recent threads. : | : |0 summary : | : |1 preface : | : |2 AUP: generally, and/or for volunteers : | : |3 specific bits of nonsense : |[...] : |(Astute readers will note that in the preceding several points, I did : |not cite external materials explicitly (by quotes or web-links) myself, : |but effectively just expressed my views of what they would say. This : |is, in principle, because I'm commenting here primarily on the discussion : |rather than directly on the subject of the discussion, and, more : |practically, because those materials are generally sufficiently clearly : |described as to allow a qualified person to find them. My interest : |simply doesn't extend as far as doing fresh specific research for TFN : |to confirm that many unresearched comments of others are of little merit.) : Somewhere around the beginning of this posting I : began to think that although the agenda was certainly : familiar enough, the style of presentation was not. : I wanted to know who this person was, so I set about : the task of finding that out. : Right away the alarms went off when I saw this in : the news header lines: : Path: gts!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.xcom.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.ne t!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news : Message-ID: <199807142230.AAA30365@basement.replay.com> : From: me@NOSPAMistar.ca (R Brown) : Organization: Replay Associates, L.L.P. : X-001: This message was forwarded by an automated remailing service. : X-002: No attempt was made to verify the sender's identity. : X-003: Please report misuse to <abuse@replay.com> : Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net : Here's somebody who is posting anonymously, I : thought - doesn't make much sense in this context. : Modulo the "NOSPAM" in "me@NOSPAMistar.ca", I : opined that etiher there was a forged address or : a large ego involved. Tests then showed that the : address was in fact a forgery - other things would : need to be looked at to determine the ego issue. : So, I attempted to take the posting at face value. : First was to look at the style of presentation - : here was a person well skilled in the art of written : words, and the arts of persuasion. As I read through : this I began to see that the writer was in fact : attempting to establish credentials of subject : authority only on the basis of their assertions & : the manner which they were made. This struck me : so much that I was rather taken aback to find at : the end a further attempt at anonymity cloaked in : what amounted to a sneering disclaimer: : |practically, because those materials are generally sufficiently clearly : |described as to allow a qualified person to find them. My interest : |simply doesn't extend as far as doing fresh specific research for TFN : |to confirm that many unresearched comments of others are of little merit.) : Um, I was not impressed. Here's a person whose : skills of persuasion would far better serve the : TFN community in corporate boardrooms by making the : case for financial support of our efforts, rather : than being underutilised in what effectively is : another person's media-unaware opinion dressed up : in policy-advisor language. : -- : ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario 1 416 699 1868 : a /i/ Internet: bdb@gts.org Uucp: ...!gts!bdb : `\o\-e To a fish, water and god are the same thing. : _< /_ - Mao TseTse Redbook -- ____Graham-John Bullers____www.Freenet.Edmonton.ab.ca/~real/index.html____ Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.The courage to change the things I can.And the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off.________alt.2600.moderated________
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103731,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid103731,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 1511e9,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid1511e9,public From: ab756@torfree.net (Graham Bullers) Subject: Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court? Date: 1998/07/17 Message-ID: <Ew9AAM.4Hx.0.bloor@torfree.net> X-Deja-AN: 372471377 References: <6ng828$l3s$2@news.interlog.com> <EvKv0D.Co5.0.queen@torfree.net> <6ntsnl$m8j$2@news.interlog.com> <199807142230.AAA30365@basement.replay.com> <Ew7Gzs.99z.0.hotlips@GTS.Net> Organization: Toronto Free-Net Followup-To: torfree.general,torfree.policy,tor.general,can.infohighway Newsgroups: torfree.general,torfree.policy,tor.general,can.infohighway