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Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?

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From: Kurt Wismer
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:00
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Marc Bissonnette (dragnet@internalysis.com) wrote:
: In article <35a06ec6.39395417@news.alt.net>, dmytrik@syntac.net says...

: >Why Marc flipped out and started calling me all kinds of names, I have
: >no idea. Maybe he had a bad day?

: No, I was having a great day. dmytri, if you had said something to the effect 
: that you would oppose in every way at your disposal the motion or AUP, that 
: would have been fine. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, after 
: all, this is a free country and we're allowed to express our opinions. 

as i think dmitry attempted to state - he was not disagreeing with you or 
your idea specifically - apparently he used the opportunity to decry the 
more censorious ideas that he feels are floating around the bod...

: >The following will result in your account being terminated:
: >
: > 1. Being convicted of using the resources of the TFN in an illegal
: >    manner by a Canadian court of law with the appropriate 
: >    jurisdiction
: >
: > 2. Any attempt to compromise the security of, or to gain unauthorized
: >    access to, any computer connected to the Internet.

i didn't have time to say this in my direct reply to dmitry's article so 
i'm doing so here...

when arrested, one is forced by police to cease one's illegal (or more 
precisely *questionably* legal since the police are judge and jury) 
activities.. i'm of the opinion that number one should be augmented to 
include such orders by police officers deemed necessary pending the 
outcome of criminal proceedings...

: Hyppocrasy again. Breaking system security is *ILLEGAL*. It falls under the 
: 'theft of data' section of the Criminal Code of Canada (Or some similar name 
: like that)

criminal mischief (i believe)... section 430, subsection 
1.1, 5, 5.1, and 8 pertain to data according to my sources...

: So you are saying that you will support the enforcement of these 
: laws, on our own, but not those involving theft, child pornography, copyrioght 
: infringement, murder, etc, etc. 

interesting point... we're willing to forgo legalities in some 
circumstances but not in others... 

(and totally unrelated to any of this, nfs at yonge stopped responding 
while i was composing this article - i wonder if anything will go awry 
when i post it)

-- 
"do as i say not as i do because 
 the shit so deep you can't run away
 i beg to differ on the contrary
 i agree with every word that you say"
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From: cr764@torfree.net (Kurt Wismer)
Subject: Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?
Date: 1998/07/03
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