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Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?

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From: bt351
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:00
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Yuri Kuchinsky (yuku@globalserve.net) wrote:
: Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@syntac.net) wrote:
: : On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 16:14:47 GMT, fjb@torfree.net (Jim Butterfield)
: : wrote:
:         ...

: : >It's clear that other ISPs in the Toronto area would deep-six such a
: : >posting FAST.
: :
: : Other ISPs are not publicly funded, are not volunteer supported, do
: : not posses the status of a charity, their responsibility is to their
: : stake holders, *OUR* responsibility is to the greater good of our
: : community, and unless we serve as a vanguard of free speech and
: : justice, we are *NOT* working in the best interest of our community.

: I don't think TFN should necessarily serve as "a vanguard of free speech".
: I don't think that there's a big need for this, since Usenet already has
: plenty of free speech.

	yes.  like chris lewis, scott anguish, jan isley  and kia mennie 
who maintain their free speech by forge cancelling that they take 
exception to (and, on occasion, sending threats of disabling or 
dismembering or killing usenet denizens)).

: On the contrary, since TFN is publicly funded, it should aim to maintain
: the same or similar level of free speech as other ISPs, which is plenty
: already. By providing a convenient forum for especially obnoxious,
: offensive, and possibly law-breaking posters, TFN may only enanger its
: funding.

	so you propose those particularly ill-affected by present 
government policy should put up and shut up?
	c'mon yuri.  you asked me to deal with a coinservative hygenist 
(who advocated something dangerously close to rape as a means of birth 
control and need for social and physical interraction).

	umm..this falls back to the restrictions on capital - nad who 
has those privilges.

: As far as "justice" goes, TFN, by providing free services to the poor,
: will do well to maintain and improve its level of service. This is
: contribution to social justice enough.

	it would be nice if the "nouveau riche" as yourself took some 
responsibilty for what advantage they've had as a result of the tfn.  

: Regards,

: Yuri.

	wake up or fuck off.  you've taken advantage of the freenet.  get 
with it or get out.
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From: bt351@torfree.net (bt351)
Subject: Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?
Date: 1998/07/03
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