🚀 go-pugleaf

You are not only a hypocrite, but also a liar... Here is my proof (and I 
hope that those who knew that these items were for sale will come 
forward). Mostly I still do not believe that these items were not sold... 
Somebody please supply info.

The following is a response I got from Bruce Becker (via Bill Chow, of 
course) about the specs and prices. 

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From: Bill Chow <chow@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Nabil M. El-Khodari <fits@servtech.com>
Subject: Re: The Sun minicomputer (fwd)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:00:49 -0400

Date: Tue, 25 Mar 97 18:24:57 EST
From: System Admins <freeadm@torfree.net>
To: Bill Chow <chow@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Cc: freeadm@torfree.net, colin@idirect.com, dane@ica.net
Subject: Re: The Sun minicomputer (fwd)

3/260
        Processor(s):   68020 @ 25MHz, 68881 @ 20MHz (stock), Sun-3 MMU,
                        8 hardware contexts, 4 MIPS
        CPU:            501-1100/1206
        Chassis type:   deskside
        Bus:            VME, 12 slot
        Memory:         64M (documented) physical with ECC, 256M virtual;
                        64K write-back cache, direct-mapped,
                        virtually-indexed and virtually-tagged, with
                        16-byte lines; 80ns cycle
        Notes:          Two serial ports, AUI Ethernet, keyboard, and
                        video on CPU. Video is mono, high-resolution
                        only. Sun supplied 8M memory boards. Sun 4/2xx
                        32M boards work up to 128M. First Sun with an
                        off-chip cache. Upgradeable to a 4/260 by
                        replacing the CPU board. Code-named "Sirius".


	Unit comes with 16MB memory, SCSI interface, no hard drive.
	$300


	Also several Sun Sparc-5 15" color monitors, Unused - $400
	one Sparc-10 20" color monitor - $900


-- 
			Bruce Becker
            A System Administrator, Toronto Free-Net
                    email: freeadm@torfree.net
----------------------------- end e-mail ---------------------------

Would you have the decency to resign Mr. Colin (and yes please take Bruce 
with you, you will need him at TFCN, but you have to pay him from TFCN, 
not the TFN). I guess not. 

You would like your collective *sses to be kicked out of TFN. Stay a 
while longer and you may get your wish.

Nabil


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Colin McGregor (aa005@torfree.net) wrote:
: Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari (ad613@torfree.net) wrote:
: : There is more in my bag, that I may see fit to publish, 
: : unless actually the board chose to answer the remaining question about 
: : the fate of the Sparc terminals that were offered for sale (while not 
: : providing the operating system for them in the package so as to deter any 
: : potential 'legitimate' buyer).... 

: The TFN has NEVER sold or disposed of ANY Sun SPARC machines. As well, the
: TFN has never offered for sale any Sun SPARC computers. The TFN has
: recieved and then donated four Motolorla Unix boxes to other community
: networking projects in southern Ontario, as well the TFN got an IBM AIX
: Unix box that was passed on to a community netowrking project in Manitoba,
: all of these machines were donated out of the TFN's hands over 1.5 years
: ago.  As for Unix for SPARCs well, Red Hat (www.redhat.com) will sell you
: a port of Linux (a Unix clone) for SPARCs for $189 (US), so lack of an OS
: would never be a serious issue.

: : Hope this explains what I have always maintained that there is a 
: : group-logic 'conspiracy' beyond what is going on, with Bruce Becker as 
: : the main actor.

: Try asking questions that can be answered.

: : Go agian Marc and define 'paranoia', if you can...

: My definition might start with what Nabil sees when looks into a mirror.

: Colin McGregor
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Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-