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This is the scond part of my response to David Jones' response
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: : [ Article crossposted from torfree.hwsw ]
: : [ Author was David Jones ]
: : [ Posted on Tue, 13 May 1997 19:13:22 -0400 (EDT) ]

: : Changes of this nature may be approved by meeting of the executive
: : committee, whose minutes are not made available to the public, as far as
: : I know.

The Excutive Committee did not meet once. The first change took place on 
December 27th. I was a member of the Excutive Committee then. 

Besides, the Excutive Committee have only the duty of actually attending 
to the day-to-day problems and should submit whatever they did for 
approval by the Board. This is not a day-to-day operation. Would you 
agree to that?


: : |Q10- What would the average TFN user lose by closing down the office web 
: : |site? What does the TFN stands to lose if it was proven that this link is 
: : |being misused?

: : I support the removal of WWW service from not.torfree.net.  It does not
: : serve the TFN any useful purpose.

Well, this is a start. However, this is not what is required. What is 
required is immediate shut down of the web server (with all its 
subdomains). Volunteers can have their own web sites in a multitude of 
places that offer free web pages. The problem is NOT not.torfree.net, 
though it was the first discovered abuse.

: : If misused, the TFN could be held liable for material in contravention of
: : Canadian law.  So far, no material that is, or was, on that site, has been
: : found in contravention by a court.

: : |Q11- Can you explain why only 100 lines are present in the current hunt 
: : |group for TFN instead of the two hundred that TFN is paying for? Where 
: : |are the other 100 lines? What is the hunt group for them? 

: : Please provide evidence of this claim.

I did. Only numbers that can be used to log to the TFN are 780-2000 up to 
780-2099. If you have any other number outside this range, please tell us.

: : The hunt group numbers are NOT contiguous, since the first hundred lines
: : were ordered several months before the second hundred, and Bell was able
: : to give out intervening numbers in the meantime.

: : Were you so bored that you actually dialled all 100 numbers from 780-2100
: : to -2199 inclusive?

No. I dialed random numbers (10 in total, which represents an acceptable 
representative sample (10%) for statistical purposes. Can you provide 
just one number that is actually working?

: : We had two hunt groups, ordered at different times.  I know this because
: : the dork who ordered the second hundred lines forgot to tell HW/SW about it.
: : I went on-site to investigate ring throughs.  After finding no faults with
: : the equipment on -2000 to -2099, I tried a phone in the next jack, and it
: : rang!  Colin M. quickly put together another 100 busy-outers to stop the
: : ring-throughs until more modems could be ordered.

My understanding from what have been said is that we got the special 
package from Rogers for the 200 lines. Now you are telling us that there 
are two hunt groups. What is the number leading to the second? Or should 
we ask Colin McGregor?

: : |Q12- Do you claim that I invented this scenario? I know that the 
: : |subdomain name in question is the same one as gts's (Thank you). 

: : ns.tls.com is ns.gts.net.  So what?  IT'S BRUCE'S MACHINE AND HE CAN
: : PROVIDE NAME SERVICE TO ANYONE HE DAMN WELL PLEASES!!!

See previous post (sorry, I got 'bad connection' which I usually do when 
I am posting to newsgroups, but of course this is due to 'noise' on my 
line and not to 'human' factors. However I succeeded in posting what I 
have written in response to the first part)

: : |Q13- If you do not claim that, as hopefully you would check the logs - if 
: : |any - of the site(s) to see that this was not changed, then what is your 
: : |explanation for this? 

: : My explanation is that you are strong on tools, and weak on knowledge.

Fair enough. That is why I usually ask more than one person. 

: : |Q14- What is the advantages of this marriage (/rape) between the TFN and 
: : |CSAS (and/or GTS, Reptiles, tls, etc who are invited to this gang rape)? 
: : |
: : |Though we do not object to inter-racial marriages, I still do for 
: : |inter-racial rapes (as well as any rape). The irony is one intity is not 
: : |for profit and is the employer, while the other is for profit and is the 
: : |employee.

: : Bruce is permitted to run gts.net for profit.  You have pointed out
: : activities that are contained completely within gts.net, csas.com and
: : reptiles.org, with the only link to the TFN being the name server records.

: : No one is abusing TFN computing resources here.

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: : Nabil M. El-Khdari          | Community networking is not an aim in itself,
: : TFN Member                  | but a means to an end.. The end being community
: : TFN Information Provider    | revitalization, empowerment and development.
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: -- 
: Nabil M. El-Khdari          | Community networking is not an aim in itself,
: TFN Member                  | but a means to an end.. The end being community
: TFN Information Provider    | revitalization, empowerment and development.
: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-- 
Nabil M. El-Khdari          | Community networking is not an aim in itself,
TFN Member                  | but a means to an end.. The end being community
TFN Information Provider    | revitalization, empowerment and development.
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