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New and exciting information

#489
From: nabil m el-khodari
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:00
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Proof is provided after the article!! 
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GUESS WHAT? gts.torfree.net is actually a name server for a domain called
TLS.COM. This means that its is a commercial one! May be a telephone to
(905) 836-6108 (the administrative contact) would prove fruitful (but
again may be not). 

As I was trying to traceroute (again) gts.torfree.net the trace program
gave it as ns.tls.com

Of course I followed that by whois tls.com... No need for guessing!! GTS
(i.e. Bruce and Company) is the system administrator. The question that
buugles the mind is that there seems to be only name servers associated
with this doamin name. No 'accessible' www site (well, may be still work
in progress, or it may end up being the 'unknown' torfr-hst that was
unnecessarily added to the TFN Internic registration!!


GUESS WHAT? csas.torfree.net is really a name server for csas.com, again
see the traceroute. Well, after all they were kind enough to change the
TFN registration to include NS.GTS.NET (which is actually on the TFN
office) to the registration. How generous Bruce and company are!!!

Of course they did not miss the chance of adding NS.torfree.net to the
CSAS name servers, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours you may say, but
then most probably you are Geoffrey Gies, because you do not get the
point.

GUESS WHAT? if.torfree.net and xor.torfree.net are no longer traceable!!!!
In our earlier investigation (me and Nathan Richards), they were both
traceable, but not functioning. Now they are gone!!

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34 cyber1 (/home/torpub1/fits)% traceroute gts.torfree.net
traceroute to ns.tls.com (192.172.254.6), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  st-roc-1-h0-t3.servtech.net (199.1.22.1)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  sl-chi-16-S2/5-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.156.77)  40 ms  30 ms  30 ms
 3  sl-chi-2-F6/0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.50.2)  20 ms  30 ms  20 ms
 4  sl-pen-17-H1/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.37)  40 ms  40 ms  60 ms
 5  sl-pen-7-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.60.7)  190 ms  230 ms  220 ms
 6  sl-accld-1-S0-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.67.30)  80 ms  70 ms  70 ms
 7  206.231.247.237 (206.231.247.237)  70 ms  390 ms  80 ms
 8  toronto-isdn1.ican.net (206.231.245.194)  80 ms  80 ms  70 ms
 9  frozen.reptiles.org (192.75.253.129)  100 ms  110 ms  150 ms
10  csas-gw.reptiles.org (192.75.253.140)  170 ms  240 ms  150 ms
11  ppp-gts.reptiles.org (192.75.253.72)  340 ms  240 ms  310 ms
12  ns.tls.com (192.172.254.6)  280 ms  240 ms  290 ms
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whis results
Domain Name: TLS.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      East, Michael B.  (MBE2)  mbeast@SHL.COM
      (905) 836-6108
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Hostmaster  (HOS336-ORG)  hostmaster@GTS.NET
      +1 416 699 1868

   Record last updated on 12-Feb-97.
   Record created on 15-Jun-94.
   Database last updated on 10-May-97 06:15:57 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS.GTS.ORG                   192.172.254.6
   NS.GTS.NET                   204.138.66.97
   NS.REPTILES.ORG              198.96.117.136

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45 cyber1 (/home/torpub1/fits)% traceroute csas.torfree.net
traceroute to csas.com (204.138.66.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  st-roc-1-h0-t3.servtech.net (199.1.22.1)  10 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  sl-chi-16-S2/5-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.156.77)  20 ms  10 ms  20 ms
 3  sl-chi-2-F6/0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.50.2)  20 ms  20 ms  10 ms
 4  sl-pen-17-H1/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.37)  50 ms  40 ms  60 ms
 5  sl-pen-7-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.60.7)  40 ms  40 ms  40 ms
 6  sl-accld-1-S0-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.67.30)  80 ms  60 ms  70 ms
 7  206.231.247.237 (206.231.247.237)  80 ms  70 ms  70 ms
 8  toronto-isdn1.ican.net (206.231.245.194)  70 ms  70 ms  90 ms
 9  frozen.reptiles.org (192.75.253.129)  90 ms  90 ms  100 ms
10  csas-gw.reptiles.org (192.75.253.140)  120 ms  110 ms  100 ms
11  ppp-gts.reptiles.org (192.75.253.72)  280 ms  240 ms  360 ms
12  ns.csas.com (204.138.66.33)  250 ms  340 ms  250 ms

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46 cyber1 (/home/torpub1/fits)% whois csas.com
Computer Systems Administration Services (CSAS-DOM)
   332 Main Street
   Toronto, Ontario; M4C 4X7
   CA

   Domain Name: CSAS.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Hostmaster  (HOS335-ORG)  hostmaster@CSAS.COM
      +1 416 699 1868
   Billing Contact:
      Mercer, Jim  (JM7718)  jim@REPTILES.ORG
      +1 416 410-5633 +1 416 506-0654 (FAX) +1 416 410-5633

   Record last updated on 05-Feb-97.
   Record created on 27-Dec-94.
   Database last updated on 10-May-97 06:15:57 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS.CSAS.COM                  204.138.66.33
   NS.REPTILES.ORG              198.96.117.136
   NS.TORFREE.NET               199.71.188.17
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47 cyber1 (/home/torpub1/fits)% traceroute and.torfree.net
traceroute to and.tfn.ryerson.ca (141.117.7.60), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  st-roc-1-h0-t3.servtech.net (199.1.22.1)  10 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  border7-serial1-5.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.188.25)  50 ms  150 ms  60
ms
 3  borderx1-fddi-1.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.185.52)  40 ms  50 ms  40 ms
 4  border3-fddi-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.2.83)  280 ms  220 ms  250 ms
 5  canet.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.26.10)  60 ms  70 ms  60 ms
 6  psp.on.canet.ca (205.207.238.141)  70 ms  60 ms  70 ms
 7  exterior.onet.on.ca (192.68.55.102)  70 ms  60 ms  50 ms
 8  toronto1.onet.on.ca (130.185.15.11)  60 ms  60 ms  60 ms
 9  ryerson.onet.on.ca (130.185.1.62)  70 ms  70 ms  60 ms
10  141.117.200.200 (141.117.200.200)  70 ms  60 ms  50 ms
11  and.tfn.ryerson.ca (141.117.7.60)  130 ms  110 ms  60 ms
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From: nabil m el-khodari <fits@cyber1.servtech.com>
Subject: New and exciting information
Date: 1997/05/10
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