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Bill Chow (chow@torfree.net) wrote:
: Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari (ad613@torfree.net) wrote:
: : what did the board do? Did the board give an elected 
: : member a chance to be questioned? Or did they hurry up screaming up till 
: : now un-proven 'security' risk.

: I voted against expelling you from the Board and against limiting your IP
: access, so I am not the one who should be explaining these majority
: decisions.

I understand that and appreciate it. However, it is not just a matter of 
voting. You can protest more vigorously. You could have put it in the 
minutes that this is against even the passed AGM motion, because it did 
not have the required majority of 2/3 of the Board. 

: My reponsibility as and the reason I ran to become TFN Board member is to 
: save Toronto Freenet, not to become net.cop. I ran to provide free basic
: internet access for all, not to censor internet content.

No not net.cop but torfree.cop, in the end you as a board member will be 
held responsible. Unfortunately, though the board is used as a front by 
the knowledge (and planning) of some of its members, the others are just 
being used. Who said any thing about internet content? If any one wants 
to post any thing s/he can do it through the newsgroups or by becoming an 
IP for the TFN. This is 'legal' content. If any one is using the TFN - or 
more specifically public facilities - to post WWW commercial and/or 
pronographic sites with no concent from the IRC or the board, then it is 
something else.

: My stance on the not.torfree computer is "if it does not cost the TFN
: any money, why not let" the volunteers use it however they wish. I
: understand TFN owns the not.torfree computer, so there is no monthly
: rental cost. Until we have alternate productive use for it, I do not
: object to volunteers using this idle asset even for commercial purposes.

Let me ask you this, what 'volunteers' have accounts on not.torfree.net, 
Is Gard a volunteer? Why does not he as a volunteer and a board member or 
may be yourself have an account on it? Is Sasha a TFN member? Why does he 
have not only an account on not.torfree.net but also have his mailing 
program on the office machine?

Well, as for your 'no objection to commercial use' I think you should 
actually study the By laws of TFN.

: I will even tolerate pornography on not.torfree so long as it does not
: violates Canadian laws or Ryerson policy. Ryerson not only provides us
: the bandwidth for the machine but our office space as well.

Well, you have your standards. Does either Ryerson or Rogers were
consulted in this 'decision'? What you think will happen to TFN if someone
- not me, but the idea can be used by any one - are provided with the
URLs? Is not the best interest of TFN is something you are supposed to 
'protect'?

: Volunteer Sasha's web site provides connection to Board member Dmytri's
: critique on child porn censorship, which warns people initially that
: what follows may be offensive. Unless the police or Ryerson warns us
: otherwise, I will not interfere.  

I am glad to see you have Sasha as a volunteer and not a 'user' of TFN. 
My suggestion is to nominate him 'volunteer of the month'.

Please Bill do not try to defend something wrong. You are putting 
yourself in the same boat with people that it seems you do not have the 
slightest idea what they are involved in, or at least I shall give you 
the benefit of the doubt.
-- 
Nabil M. El-Khdari          | Community networking is not an aim in itslef,
TFN Member                  | but a means to an end.. The end being community
TFN Information Provider    | revitalization, empowerment and development.
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