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From: Bob Allisat
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:00
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Chris Lewis (clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca) wrote:
: You entirely misunderstand the process there. While the majority of
: the commenters in the group probably agree with my suggestion, that's
: not the point. The admins are pulling in several different directions.
: Without me taking a position and continuing to argue it, they generally
: don't come to a consensus at all. Without a consensus nothing gets
: done.
:
: So, I argue presenting a given point of view, and eventually they'll
: focus enough to come to agreement. Not always with the position I took,
: but that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that a consensus
: is reached. If you had followed can.config long enough you'll have noticed
: that the solutions that I actually implement are rarely the solutions
: I originally proposed. Most of the groups I've created were groups I
: argued against - it gave the proponents focus, and proved they wanted
: it if they had to work at arguing with me. It's called devil's advocacy.
:
Now a lesson on consensus for our
UNIX god Mr. Lewis... a group as
divers as humanity will NEVER reach
consensus. *Except* to live and let
live, to tolerate differances of all
opinions, interpretations and customs.
Which is where all of these silly and
counterproductive Acceptable Use
Policies, FAQ (Frequently Asked
Question) documents and RFC's fall
flat on their asses. Which is where
the old style dictatorial style of
Usenet runs smack BOOM into the vast
diversity of real live people humanity.
Keep up or be left with Carroll, Kambell
Fournier, Tao and the rest of your cabal
crib mates. Simple and clear choice...
5 billion persons. Something your feeble
preconceptions fail utterly, totally and
completely in comprehending.
Bob Allisat
**100% REAL** http://www.vrx.net/allisat **NOT from concentrate**
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