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bt351 (bt351@torfree.net) wrote:
: References: <EpuGMB.3pB.0.sheppard@torfree.net>
: Organization: Toronto Free-Net
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: Iva Lindsay (cu726@torfree.net) wrote:
: : My computer was moved from one table to another - when it was 
: : reconnected, I no longer had any colour.
: : I checked the pins on the cable (permanent one from the monitor to the 
: : CPU) and it looks like 2 were bent over - I tried to straighten them and 
: : one totally broke off and the other is still slightly bent.  I plugged 
: : it in again and another one bent.
: : I now have some colour (shades of blue, off yellows etc.).
: : Do I have to repleace the monitor cable?

: 	no.
: 	
: 	you have to replace your preconception of what is acceptable colour.

: 	it is somewhat tiresome to listen to you demand the resources of 
: others to explain you can simply replace a cable connector.  and there 
: are better forums to discuss these matters.

: 	although you deny making racist comments (or being a racist - 
: citing the matter of taking a black tenant - only to find fault with any 
: and all of his actions), your comments are scary on the meta scale.

: 	jason aaron black demands free speech for his (social 
: exclusionary) organization while at the same time forge cancelling the 
: posts of others.

: 	and then posts demanding freedom of expression?

: 	then marc "the inbred" is featured on cbc news as "a moderate"?  

: 	what the fuck is going on with this shit?

Geoffrey, what the fuck is going on with *you?*  Iva made her post 11 days
ago (March 15/98).  While the subject might be better posted in
torfree.help than in torfree.general, I don't see a *huge* problem with
her posting it here.  Why bring up such a venomous response now??  I 
don't get it.

You say she's demanding the "resources of others"  by posting her inquiry;
however, no one's holding a gun to your head to repond, if that's the way
you feel. 

If you have been pulled into this issue in some other way, perhaps you
could fill us all in on why. 

You then go on to cite a very long-ago issue which has nothing to do with
her current post (that of her criticism of a former tenant of hers).  Why
bring this up here and how?  If this issue is unresolved for you and you
need to continue to rehash it with her, surely you don't need the excuse
of her question about faulty computer equipment to raise the issue? 

I have no idea who Jason Aaron Black is or Marc "the inbred" or why they 
are relevant to Iva's post.  If these things are connected in your mind, 
perhaps you could share with the rest of us just what the connections 
are, instead of posting a cryptic flame.


Wendy
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cq915@torfree.net (Wendy Guy) wrote:

>I have no idea who Jason Aaron Black is or Marc "the inbred" or why they 
>are relevant to Iva's post.

I don't know why she is being blamed for him either, but Jason Aaron
Black is cj224@torfree.net.

If you notice his posts on can.general, then if the poster here has
reasons for imagining that the person with a color monitor problem has
something to do with him _then_ these would be valid reasons for
otherwise bizarre criticisms.

Basically, posts bearing the E-mail address cj224@torfree.net and the
name Jason Aaron Black contain material of a white supremacist and a
neo-Nazi nature.

John Savard

bt351@torfree.net (bt351) wrote:
>References: <EpuGMB.3pB.0.sheppard@torfree.net>
>Organization: Toronto Free-Net
>Distribution: 

>Iva Lindsay (cu726@torfree.net) wrote:
>: My computer was moved from one table to another - when it was 
>: reconnected, I no longer had any colour.
>: I checked the pins on the cable (permanent one from the monitor to the 
>: CPU) and it looks like 2 were bent over - I tried to straighten them and 
>: one totally broke off and the other is still slightly bent.  I plugged 
>: it in again and another one bent.
>: I now have some colour (shades of blue, off yellows etc.).
>: Do I have to repleace the monitor cable?

>	no.
	
>	you have to replace your preconception of what is acceptable colour.

That is weird thinking. Why put up with partial service from an easily
repairable device? The cost of repair is less than the loss in value
of the monitor, due to such a limitation, amortized over its remaining
service life.

>	it is somewhat tiresome to listen to you demand the resources of 
>others to explain you can simply replace a cable connector.  and there 
>are better forums to discuss these matters.

Acceptable color on a VGA monitor means correct functioning of the R,
G, and B signals.

Obviously, if one pin is broken on a cable, but fixing other bent pins
brings back partial color, the cable is at fault.

Now, one could replace the connector on one end of the cable. To do
this, one would need to have a continuity tester or ohmmeter, so that
one knows which wire is which. And one needs to use a soldering iron.
Not everyone is perhaps ready to attempt such a repair; obviously, the
only remaining alternative is to buy a new cable. But if the cable is
"permanent" - that is, it comes out from the monitor without a
connector at that end, then soldering is a better idea.

Now, the connector at the computer end on the cable: is it molded in
one piece? If so, one will have to cut it off leaving some length of
cable on the connector, so one can use an ohmmeter to find out which
color of wire goes to which pin. If you lose that information then you
have no way to attach a new connector.

John Savard

well, we've heard of road rage? well wendy et al, this geoffrey chap 
who went on this tangent just engaged in some 'net rage. its the latest
thing. real hip fad eh, all the 'rage' you know.

and a sign of the times, the anonymity and distance yet the
in-your-face aspect all rolled into one. some people just cant handle
all that power to intimidate........

those targetted by his type have no need to reciprocate.

a view which will probably incurr some sort of flame attempt.



Wendy Guy (cq915@torfree.net) wrote:
: bt351 (bt351@torfree.net) wrote:
: : References: <EpuGMB.3pB.0.sheppard@torfree.net>
: : Organization: Toronto Free-Net
: : Distribution: 

: : Iva Lindsay (cu726@torfree.net) wrote:
: : : My computer was moved from one table to another - when it was 
: : : reconnected, I no longer had any colour.
: : : I checked the pins on the cable (permanent one from the monitor to the 
: : : CPU) and it looks like 2 were bent over - I tried to straighten them and 
: : : one totally broke off and the other is still slightly bent.  I plugged 
: : : it in again and another one bent.
: : : I now have some colour (shades of blue, off yellows etc.).
: : : Do I have to repleace the monitor cable?

: : 	no.
: : 	
: : 	you have to replace your preconception of what is acceptable colour.

: : 	it is somewhat tiresome to listen to you demand the resources of 
: : others to explain you can simply replace a cable connector.  and there 
: : are better forums to discuss these matters.

: : 	although you deny making racist comments (or being a racist - 
: : citing the matter of taking a black tenant - only to find fault with any 
: : and all of his actions), your comments are scary on the meta scale.

: : 	jason aaron black demands free speech for his (social 
: : exclusionary) organization while at the same time forge cancelling the 
: : posts of others.

: : 	and then posts demanding freedom of expression?

: : 	then marc "the inbred" is featured on cbc news as "a moderate"?  

: : 	what the fuck is going on with this shit?

: Geoffrey, what the fuck is going on with *you?*  Iva made her post 11 days
: ago (March 15/98).  While the subject might be better posted in
: torfree.help than in torfree.general, I don't see a *huge* problem with
: her posting it here.  Why bring up such a venomous response now??  I 
: don't get it.

: You say she's demanding the "resources of others"  by posting her inquiry;
: however, no one's holding a gun to your head to repond, if that's the way
: you feel. 

: If you have been pulled into this issue in some other way, perhaps you
: could fill us all in on why. 

: You then go on to cite a very long-ago issue which has nothing to do with
: her current post (that of her criticism of a former tenant of hers).  Why
: bring this up here and how?  If this issue is unresolved for you and you
: need to continue to rehash it with her, surely you don't need the excuse
: of her question about faulty computer equipment to raise the issue? 

: I have no idea who Jason Aaron Black is or Marc "the inbred" or why they 
: are relevant to Iva's post.  If these things are connected in your mind, 
: perhaps you could share with the rest of us just what the connections 
: are, instead of posting a cryptic flame.


: Wendy
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