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3 total messages Started by Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00
NOT.torfree.net? Why was the stat program disabled?
#348
Author: Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00
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Adding to the mysteris of the not.torfree.net, not only the search 
engines robots cannot tell what pages are hosted there, but also that the 
statistics program has been disabled.

The USERS of not.torfree.net have been defending that it does not use any 
bandwidth. They have been trying to confuse the average user by stating 
half facts. For example, that the not.torfree.net (and its sisters 
gts.torfree.net and csas.torfree.net) does not use the same link to the 
WWW. This is absolutely absurd as the Ryerson connection and the TFN 
connection are all sharing the Rogers 'community' T1 connection. So 
traffic on not.torfree.net would ultimately affect traffic of the TFN. 

Yes GTS is the system administrator's company that has a url of
www.gts.com but only using an ISDN connection to the WWW, while
gts.torfree.net has access to a T1 connection. So is CSAS (Bruce and Jim).

Now if the office server does not SERVE the average TFN user, would the 
board please consider shutting it down before Ryerson or Rogers does it 
for us????

By hiding the statistics and hiding the pages, those in charge of the 
office server (Bruce) only prove they have things to hide...

Here is the statistics report obtained (I have published some statistics 
before which are hopefully still available at the archives).

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Re: NOT.torfree.net? Why was the stat program disabled?
#353
Author: Chris F.A. Johnson
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00
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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:28:04 GMT, Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari (ad613@torfree.net) wrote:
: Adding to the mysteris of the not.torfree.net, not only the search 
: engines robots cannot tell what pages are hosted there, but also that the 
: statistics program has been disabled.

: The USERS of not.torfree.net have been defending that it does not use any 
: bandwidth. They have been trying to confuse the average user by stating 
: half facts.

:         For example, that the not.torfree.net (and its sisters 
: gts.torfree.net and csas.torfree.net) does not use the same link to the 
: WWW. This is absolutely absurd as the Ryerson connection and the TFN 
: connection are all sharing the Rogers 'community' T1 connection. So 
: traffic on not.torfree.net would ultimately affect traffic of the TFN. 

Why does everyone but you say that they do not share the "Rogers
'community' T1 connection"? Simply because they don't. That fact has been
documented time and time again, but you refuse to accept it.

: Now if the office server does not SERVE the average TFN user, would the 
: board please consider shutting it down before Ryerson or Rogers does it 
: for us????

Rogers has absolutely nothing to do with the office server. And Ryerson is
not complaining.
-- 
	Chris F.A. Johnson                bq933@torfree.net
	***  Executive Director, Toronto Free-Net Inc.  ***
	-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
	http://www.interlog.com/~cfaj     cfaj@interlog.com
Re: NOT.torfree.net? Why was the stat program disabled?
#354
Author: Jim Butterfield
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00
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Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari (ad613@torfree.net) wrote:

: The USERS of not.torfree.net have been defending that it does not use any 
: bandwidth....

: Here is the statistics report obtained (I have published some statistics 
: before which are hopefully still available at the archives).

:                 Web Server Statistics for [1]TFN Office Website...
:
:    Total data transferred: 0 bytes

Let me see .. how much bandwidth does this represent?  Ummm .. 0 bytes 
times 8 bits per byte gives <checking calculator> a total of 0 bits 
transmitted.

To calculate bandwidth, we need to know, of course, how long it took to 
transmit this data.  Let's assume one millisecond; that's .001 seconds, 
which would be pretty fast ...

Umm <calculator out again>:  0 bits divided by .001 gives a bandwidth 
usage of ..

	  Hey, that's not excessive bandwidth usage, in my opinion!

: May common sense prevail?

Try it some time.
 
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: Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
: IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
:                                   |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

Your fly is open.

			  --Jim
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