TFN: Sitting Target

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2 total messages Started by Bob Allisat Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00

#559

Author: Bob Allisat
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00

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 Who, you ask yourself, would
 have any interest in Toronto
 Freenet sufficient to engage
 in the destructive and negative
 actions I have described? "Ha!"
 you laugh to yourselves, "TFN
 is worthless - and almost bankrupt!
 Bob's as crazy as our old friend
 Nabil!" 

 Well now Nabil may have been onto
 something. Poorly formed and in-
 adequately expressed. But something.

 TFN is worth millions of dollars if
 you consider it as a community of
 20,000 persons. Community Networking
 is a vast and as yet unsuccessful
 market for businesses. And having such
 a large potential starter base may
 be very appealing to possible
 investors.

 "But", you say to me "TFN was almost
 bankrupt!" The perfect opportunity
 to walk in, let it go down the drain
 and then privatize TFN as the core of
 a commercial venture. The advertising
 potential for a revamped TFN alone
 will pay a handsome income. Then there
 are the ineveitable access fees.

 It may even be necessary to advocate
 *NO* access or suplementary feews at all
 until TFN goes bankrupt. Which is why
 I have, relunctantly changed my views
 and now support limited fees. Strictly
 on premium services though.
 
 TFN was and still is a sitting duck.
 We must safeguard this community from
 privatization while keeping it free
 at a basic level. Don't ever forget how
 important a seed like TFN will be in
 defining the so-called marketplace
 in a year or two. Let's keep it free
 from profiteers as well as censors.

 Thank you for your patience.

                           Bob Allisat

 PO Box 191 Station E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2      (416) 588-0670
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Re: TFN: Sitting Target

#536

Author: karl mamer
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:00

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Bob Allisat wrote:
> 
>  Who, you ask yourself, would
>  have any interest in Toronto
>  Freenet sufficient to engage
>  in the destructive and negative
>  actions I have described? "Ha!"
>  you laugh to yourselves, "TFN
>  is worthless - and almost bankrupt!
>  Bob's as crazy as our old friend
>  Nabil!"

What will you do for an account if the TFN
goes belly up?

>  TFN is worth millions of dollars if
>  you consider it as a community of
>  20,000 persons. Community Networking
>  is a vast and as yet unsuccessful
>  market for businesses. And having such
>  a large potential starter base may
>  be very appealing to possible
>  investors.

Yep, just like the Olympics. I've heard you call
for massive corporate support of the TFN before,
boB. Yet, you're the first one to scream when
corporations get involved in the support of
any activity (eg amature athletics). Why do
you think they'll behave any differently
with your precious TFN? Me thinks the first
move they would make is to silence you.

>  a commercial venture. The advertising
>  potential for a revamped TFN alone
>  will pay a handsome income. Then there
>  are the ineveitable access fees.

I hate to break it to you boB, but advertiser
haven't exactly flocked to the net. I believe
Yahoo! is the only site that's actually
broken even based on ad revenues.

>  in a year or two. Let's keep it free
>  from profiteers as well as censors.

And yet you want corporate sponsorship...

>  Thank you for your patience.

Huh?

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