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Article #28Re: Toronto Star article on TFN & other ISP's.
From: Nabil M. El-Khodari
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:00
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Bob Allisat (bob@news.vrx.net) wrote: : PPP along with the graphical : user interface I have for so long : advocated are now the standard : that is allowing millions of : regular citizans onto the Internet. : Granted in a form I did not anticipate. : PPP is the standard the Toronto : Freenet will adopt with the next : Board of Directors if I have any : influence at all over things. Or : it will collapse in a heap. : The day of text interfaces is : over. The people once behind : TFN lacked the vision to move and : grow and see the wider picture : both technologically and ethically. : If TFN survives a year from now : it will be a very differant beast : from the rotten, mediocre mess : it is now. Sorry. That's life. boB, if you have been listening, I told you in the second meeting we cannot have a GUI interphase right now, according to Mr. Albano, for the simple fact that we are relying largely on the T1 connection from Rogers that is shared among other nets, e.g. shoolnet. GUI interphase will put a huge burden on that connection so that Rogers (which is actually a player in the ISP field) may re-consider its support to TFN. Unless we can either negotiate with Rogers for approval, or be ready to have our own facilities (approximately will add $10,000/month to our current 20,000/month expenses) then this has to be put as a dream we cannot afford. You can go on promising things TFN cannot really afford in the near future, but the membership is wise. As for text being outdated, I think no one will really agree with you. Before jumping to your keyboard and starting another hypocrite series, yes I am also one of the advocates of GUI (of course for totally another purpose than yours), but never asked for it to replace text. I asked that the user be given a choice of text (after improvements with installation of Lynx 2.6) or ppp. Now I understand it is impossible at the short run. What can be done actually is to may be offer web design and hosting services for businesses on another server, as a way of making money for the TFN (not your 10% donation scheme). Sasha may be - just impression - ready to share in that effort, also I am sure many others will be. So, please boB, let us try to work together to really save the TFN. Sincerely, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Nabil M. El-Khodari SAVE TFN NOW Info. Provider TFN WE NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS Board Candidate WITH TFN LOYALITY TO NOMINATE THEMSELVES
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc3d0,aa5dbae7f484d52b X-Google-Attributes: gidfc3d0,public X-Google-Thread: f504b,aa5dbae7f484d52b X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: 103731,11a59ec514f1d31e X-Google-Attributes: gid103731,public X-Google-Thread: 11d5f3,11a59ec514f1d31e X-Google-Attributes: gid11d5f3,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,11a59ec514f1d31e X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 154676,11a59ec514f1d31e X-Google-Attributes: gid154676,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,aa5dbae7f484d52b X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 1511e9,11a59ec514f1d31e X-Google-Attributes: gid1511e9,public From: falcon@torfree.net (Nabil M. El-Khodari) Subject: Re: Toronto Star article on TFN & other ISP's. Date: 1996/10/22 Message-ID: <DzoIs7.M0r.0.sheppard@torfree.net> X-Deja-AN: 191237300 references: <DzK8Ln.50G.0.sheppard@torfree.net> <DzLB3B.E6H@GTS.Net> <54e32u$qhu@ns1.vrx.net> organization: Toronto Free-Net followup-to: torfree.policy,torfree.general,torfree.agm,torfree.agm.candidates,ont.general,can.general,can.infohighway,tor.general newsgroups: torfree.policy,torfree.general,torfree.agm,torfree.agm.candidates,ont.general,can.general,can.infohighway,tor.general