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Re: Reasons why reparations will never work.

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From: John A Johnson
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:15
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You are correct sir. If reparations are granted, I will cease to pay any
income tax State or Federal. So will many millions of others.


Thomas Jackson wrote in message
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>Short list:
>
>1) Who was affected?
>   It CANNOT be a blanket program because it has to be proven that any
>recipients really are descendants of those who were "adversely
>affected" (more about that a little later) by oppression.  And,
>plueeese.....none of this kunta kinte geneology mumbo-jumbo - it would
>have to be being verifiable. Current African americans (AA's) want it
>to be all current AA's and some (make that most) are not worthy!  They
>were manufactured over here.
>2) What did they lose?
>   Most of the africans who came over here were sold to the dutch
>slave traders by fellow african tribes that had conquered them.  So
>they would have been slaves anyway, unless the conquering tribe
>decided to off those they had conquered to reduce the overhead of the
>lessers they had conquered.
>3) Why did some end up in better circumstances (judges, politicans,
>athletes, etc) than others (poverty, poor skills, etc.)?
>   It is evident that AA's have done BETTER over here in American than
>they would have done if they all stayed over there.  You have a
>billionaire (the guy that owns BET) and many, many millionaires
>(sports stars, judges, politicians, media moguls, etc.) as well as
>successful "learned" people like judges and politicians.  The people
>mentioned in this section have had the opportunity to help their
>brethren who have been "discriminated against", but have not by and
>large.
>   Now contrast that with the plight of the African in the bush and
>tell me who has it better.  And why a lot of "them" have succeeded
>over here  in the good ol' USA.
>   Chutzpah for some and Affirmative Action for the rest.
>4)  Some of those who didn't benefit from slavery are expected to be
>paying.
>    As noted in 1) above a VERIFIABLE geneology would have to be done
>- not only for anyone getting any reparations, but for those who would
>be expected to pony us the reparations as well.
>    Take my specific case.
>
>    My british/scottish families came to America in the late 1890's so
>they did not benefit from slavery or the slave trade.  One of the
>brits later married an American Indian descendant of an chief.  So
>there I qualify for reparations for the taking of the lives and land
>taken and the liberty and pursuit of happiness removed to small Indian
>reservations.  And everyone knows the American Indians were stepped on
>a long time before those removed to the USA from Africa were.  And,
>using the logic of AA's clamoring for their reparations they are owing
>me because they are benefitting from the earlier oppression against
>the American Indian, don'cha know.
>
>I rest my case, for now, but not my argument.
>
>Bring it on,
>Thomas
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