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Article #738Re: Reasons why reparations will never work.
From: John A Johnson
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:15
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:15
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You are correct sir. If reparations are granted, I will cease to pay any income tax State or Federal. So will many millions of others. Thomas Jackson wrote in message <304e78e2.0201221655.5ed66d67@posting.google.com>... >Short list: > >1) Who was affected? > It CANNOT be a blanket program because it has to be proven that any >recipients really are descendants of those who were "adversely >affected" (more about that a little later) by oppression. And, >plueeese.....none of this kunta kinte geneology mumbo-jumbo - it would >have to be being verifiable. Current African americans (AA's) want it >to be all current AA's and some (make that most) are not worthy! They >were manufactured over here. >2) What did they lose? > Most of the africans who came over here were sold to the dutch >slave traders by fellow african tribes that had conquered them. So >they would have been slaves anyway, unless the conquering tribe >decided to off those they had conquered to reduce the overhead of the >lessers they had conquered. >3) Why did some end up in better circumstances (judges, politicans, >athletes, etc) than others (poverty, poor skills, etc.)? > It is evident that AA's have done BETTER over here in American than >they would have done if they all stayed over there. You have a >billionaire (the guy that owns BET) and many, many millionaires >(sports stars, judges, politicians, media moguls, etc.) as well as >successful "learned" people like judges and politicians. The people >mentioned in this section have had the opportunity to help their >brethren who have been "discriminated against", but have not by and >large. > Now contrast that with the plight of the African in the bush and >tell me who has it better. And why a lot of "them" have succeeded >over here in the good ol' USA. > Chutzpah for some and Affirmative Action for the rest. >4) Some of those who didn't benefit from slavery are expected to be >paying. > As noted in 1) above a VERIFIABLE geneology would have to be done >- not only for anyone getting any reparations, but for those who would >be expected to pony us the reparations as well. > Take my specific case. > > My british/scottish families came to America in the late 1890's so >they did not benefit from slavery or the slave trade. One of the >brits later married an American Indian descendant of an chief. So >there I qualify for reparations for the taking of the lives and land >taken and the liberty and pursuit of happiness removed to small Indian >reservations. And everyone knows the American Indians were stepped on >a long time before those removed to the USA from Africa were. And, >using the logic of AA's clamoring for their reparations they are owing >me because they are benefitting from the earlier oppression against >the American Indian, don'cha know. > >I rest my case, for now, but not my argument. > >Bring it on, >Thomas
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