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Article #874Re: John McCain...a Major Naval F' Up, lost 5 US planes
From: Ted
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:52
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:52
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On Mar 5, 7:26 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:09:31 -0500, "Marko" <Gana...@hotmail.net> wrote: > >Juan McCain ...was he really a hero or a major F' Up who crashed planes and > >eventually got shot down. > >McCain crashed planes even before going into combat! Landing screw ups that > >landed him in the water, the man even hit power lines that made news yet > >he got off because he was the admirals son. Do you really want a > >knucklehead screwup running the country. You should have nominated Huck > >or Romney! > > Who cares about his record as a pilot? What's really scary is thinking a guy > known even by his friends and allies as "Senator Hothead" has a chance to be > president at all. > > Newsweek did a big puff piece on McCain not long ago. No matter how hard > they tried to blow smoke up his ass, and boy, did they try, McCain still > comes off as an unstable, angry, out of control loose canon on deck. > > Makes for interesting reading. Here's a few choice excerpts... > > ------http://www.newsweek.com/id/107581/page/1 > > John McCain, 71, will be the oldest president ever elected if he goes on to > win his party's nomination and the White House in November. He has made a > long, hard journey from being a "rebel without a cause," as he described > himself to one of those Navy psychiatrists back in the 1970s, to a man who > aspires to lead the nation and the world. As an angry toddler, he would hold > his breath until he passed out (his parents' cure was to drop him fully > clothed into a bathtub of icy water) > ... > According to Robert Timberg's "The Nightingale's Song," McCain's nicknames > at EHS were "Punk," "Nasty" and "McNasty." A classmate described him as a > "tough, mean little f---er." Episcopal had borrowed from state military > schools the sobriquet "rat" to describe first-year students at the mercy ofupperclassmen hazing. McCain writes: "My resentment, along with my affected > > disregard for rules and school authorities, soon earned me the distinction > of 'worst rat'." At Annapolis, he was, he writes, "a slob." He looked for > authorities to subvert, settling on a bullying, second-year midshipman he > and his friends dubbed "Sh---y Witty the Middy," and making life miserable > for a by-the-book captain who was supposed to discipline him. > ... > But a number of senators and former lawmakers are still licking their wounds > from run-ins with McCain. "It's sad, really," says former senator Bob Smith > of New Hampshire. "John McCain can tell a good joke and we can laugh, and > I've had my share of good times with him." That is the side of McCain, says > Smith, that the press sees. But behind the scenes lurks a less amiable > McCain. "You can disagree without being disagreeable," says Smith. "And I > don't think John is able to do that. If he disagrees with you, he does it in > a way that is disagreeable." > > The lore of "Senator Hothead," as McCain has been dubbed over the years, is > considerable. McCain is widely reported to have yelled profanities at > senators and even shoved one or two (including the late Strom Thurmond, a > feisty nonagenarian at the time of the alleged incident). After McCain used > an obscenity to describe Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa to his face > in 1992, Grassley did not speak to McCain for more than a year. > ... > McCain has reportedly learned to control his temper; still, there are > moments when he cannot or does not. Last spring, at a closed-door meeting of > senators and staff, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas tried to amend the immigration > bill to make ineligible convicted felons, known terrorists and gang members. > Agitated that any attempt to amend the bill would jeopardize its slim chance > of passage (ultimately, the bill failed), McCain snapped, "This is > chickens---." Cornyn shot back that McCain shouldn't come parachuting in off > the presidential-campaign trail at the last minute and start making demands. > "F--- you," said McCain, in front of about 30 witnesses. > ... > Sen. Thad Cochran, Republican of Mississippi, has had his share of dust-ups > with McCain, usually over some appropriation that McCain regards as > pork-barrel spending. "He gets very volatile," Cochran tells NEWSWEEK. "He > gets red in the face. He talks loud." > ... > "I was surprised to find so many senators who'd had a personal experience > when he'd lost his temper," says Cochran. Did he find McCain's temper to be > somehow disabling or disqualifying in a potential president? "I don't know > how to assess that," says Cochran. "I certainly know no other president > since I've been here who's had a temperament like that. There's some who > were capable of getting angry, of course. Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter > both. But this ..." His voice trailed away. "You like to think your president > would be cool, calm and collected. He's commander in chief." > ... > McCain has long had chilly relations with conservative activists in > Washington, D.C., including Grover Norquist, an advocate of tax cutting who > is close to many right-of-center lobbyists. "McCain reacts poorly when > criticized," says Norquist. "When the NRA and the right-to-life and > right-to-work groups criticized him, he reacted like they were personal > attacks, and then he supported some gun-control legislation to get back at > the NRA." > ... > Sen. Richard Shelby recalled a typical McCain blow-up when Shelby, an > Alabama Republican, tried to slip $1.5 million in the 2001 Interior > Department Appropriation Bill to help pay for the restoration of > Birmingham's 56-foot-tall cast-iron statue of Vulcan, the Roman god of fire > and forge. > ... > McCain relentlessly badgered the Pentagon, holding up Air Force promotions > until the Defense Department produced some allegedly inculpatory e-mails. > The Pentagon balked and McCain wound up in the office of the then Defense > Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, yelling at the top of his lungs, say a Pentagon > official and an adviser to Rumsfeld who declined to be identified discussing > a confidential meeting. > ... > McCain may have a bit of a vindictive streak. "John has an enemies list > longer than Nixon's," says a former Pentagon official who did not want to > get on it. "And, unlike Nixon, McCain really does try to get you." > ... > It was a characteristically principled stand, and yet McCain's leadership > skills are called into question by the near meltdown of his campaign. > "Nobody knew who the boss was," says one of McCain's longtime friends and > advisers, who declined to be named discussing the internal workings of the > campaign. "You couldn't get people to return your calls. It was bad." More > troubling, says this associate, was McCain's blind eye to the problem. "He > didn't really seem to want to deal with it." > > <full story at URL> > ------ > > --- > Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit. Slow thinkers keep right. > ------ > Why are so many not smart enough to know they're not smart enough? > > http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf > (c) 1999 by the American Psychological Association > December 1999 Vol. 77, No. 6, 1121-1134 > > Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own > Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments > > Justin Kruger and David Dunning > Department of Psychology > Cornell University > > ABSTRACT: > ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile > on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test > performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the > 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
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