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Re: John McCain...a Major Naval F' Up, lost 5 US planes

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From: Ted
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:52
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On Mar 5, 7:26 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:09:31 -0500, "Marko" <Gana...@hotmail.net> wrote:
> >Juan McCain ...was he really a hero or a major F' Up who crashed planes and
> >eventually got shot down.
> >McCain crashed planes even before going into combat! Landing screw ups that
> >landed him in the water, the man even hit power lines that  made news yet
> >he got off because he was the admirals son. Do you  really want a
> >knucklehead screwup  running  the country.  You should have  nominated Huck
> >or Romney!
>
> Who cares about his record as a pilot? What's really scary is thinking a guy
> known even by his friends and allies as "Senator Hothead" has a chance to be
> president at all.
>
> Newsweek did a big puff piece on McCain not long ago. No matter how hard
> they tried to blow smoke up his ass, and boy, did they try, McCain still
> comes off as an unstable, angry, out of control loose canon on deck.
>
> Makes for interesting reading. Here's a few choice excerpts...
>
> ------http://www.newsweek.com/id/107581/page/1
>
> John McCain, 71, will be the oldest president ever elected if he goes on to
> win his party's nomination and the White House in November. He has made a
> long, hard journey from being a "rebel without a cause," as he described
> himself to one of those Navy psychiatrists back in the 1970s, to a man who
> aspires to lead the nation and the world. As an angry toddler, he would hold
> his breath until he passed out (his parents' cure was to drop him fully
> clothed into a bathtub of icy water)
> ...
> According to Robert Timberg's "The Nightingale's Song," McCain's nicknames
> at EHS were "Punk," "Nasty" and "McNasty." A classmate described him as a
> "tough, mean little f---er." Episcopal had borrowed from state military
> schools the sobriquet "rat" to describe first-year students at the mercy ofupperclassmen hazing. McCain writes: "My resentment, along with my affected
>
> disregard for rules and school authorities, soon earned me the distinction
> of 'worst rat'." At Annapolis, he was, he writes, "a slob." He looked for
> authorities to subvert, settling on a bullying, second-year midshipman he
> and his friends dubbed "Sh---y Witty the Middy," and making life miserable
> for a by-the-book captain who was supposed to discipline him.
> ...
> But a number of senators and former lawmakers are still licking their wounds
> from run-ins with McCain. "It's sad, really," says former senator Bob Smith
> of New Hampshire. "John McCain can tell a good joke and we can laugh, and
> I've had my share of good times with him." That is the side of McCain, says
> Smith, that the press sees. But behind the scenes lurks a less amiable
> McCain. "You can disagree without being disagreeable," says Smith. "And I
> don't think John is able to do that. If he disagrees with you, he does it in
> a way that is disagreeable."
>
> The lore of "Senator Hothead," as McCain has been dubbed over the years, is
> considerable. McCain is widely reported to have yelled profanities at
> senators and even shoved one or two (including the late Strom Thurmond, a
> feisty nonagenarian at the time of the alleged incident). After McCain used
> an obscenity to describe Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa to his face
> in 1992, Grassley did not speak to McCain for more than a year.
> ...
> McCain has reportedly learned to control his temper; still, there are
> moments when he cannot or does not. Last spring, at a closed-door meeting of
> senators and staff, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas tried to amend the immigration
> bill to make ineligible convicted felons, known terrorists and gang members.
> Agitated that any attempt to amend the bill would jeopardize its slim chance
> of passage (ultimately, the bill failed), McCain snapped, "This is
> chickens---." Cornyn shot back that McCain shouldn't come parachuting in off
> the presidential-campaign trail at the last minute and start making demands.
> "F--- you," said McCain, in front of about 30 witnesses.
> ...
> Sen. Thad Cochran, Republican of Mississippi, has had his share of dust-ups
> with McCain, usually over some appropriation that McCain regards as
> pork-barrel spending. "He gets very volatile," Cochran tells NEWSWEEK. "He
> gets red in the face. He talks loud."
> ...
> "I was surprised to find so many senators who'd had a personal experience
> when he'd lost his temper," says Cochran. Did he find McCain's temper to be
> somehow disabling or disqualifying in a potential president? "I don't know
> how to assess that," says Cochran. "I certainly know no other president
> since I've been here who's had a temperament like that. There's some who
> were capable of getting angry, of course. Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter
> both. But this ..." His voice trailed away. "You like to think your president
> would be cool, calm and collected. He's commander in chief."
> ...
> McCain has long had chilly relations with conservative activists in
> Washington, D.C., including Grover Norquist, an advocate of tax cutting who
> is close to many right-of-center lobbyists. "McCain reacts poorly when
> criticized," says Norquist. "When the NRA and the right-to-life and
> right-to-work groups criticized him, he reacted like they were personal
> attacks, and then he supported some gun-control legislation to get back at
> the NRA."
> ...
> Sen. Richard Shelby recalled a typical McCain blow-up when Shelby, an
> Alabama Republican, tried to slip $1.5 million in the 2001 Interior
> Department Appropriation Bill to help pay for the restoration of
> Birmingham's 56-foot-tall cast-iron statue of Vulcan, the Roman god of fire
> and forge.
> ...
> McCain relentlessly badgered the Pentagon, holding up Air Force promotions
> until the Defense Department produced some allegedly inculpatory e-mails.
> The Pentagon balked and McCain wound up in the office of the then Defense
> Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, yelling at the top of his lungs, say a Pentagon
> official and an adviser to Rumsfeld who declined to be identified discussing
> a confidential meeting.
> ...
> McCain may have a bit of a vindictive streak. "John has an enemies list
> longer than Nixon's," says a former Pentagon official who did not want to
> get on it. "And, unlike Nixon, McCain really does try to get you."
> ...
> It was a characteristically principled stand, and yet McCain's leadership
> skills are called into question by the near meltdown of his campaign.
> "Nobody knew who the boss was," says one of McCain's longtime friends and
> advisers, who declined to be named discussing the internal workings of the
> campaign. "You couldn't get people to return your calls. It was bad." More
> troubling, says this associate, was McCain's blind eye to the problem. "He
> didn't really seem to want to deal with it."
>
> <full story at URL>
> ------
>
> ---
> Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit. Slow thinkers keep right.
> ------
> Why are so many not smart enough to know they're not smart enough?
>
> http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
> (c) 1999 by the American Psychological Association
> December 1999 Vol. 77, No. 6, 1121-1134
>
> Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own
> Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
>
> Justin Kruger and David Dunning
> Department of Psychology
> Cornell University
>
> ABSTRACT:
> ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile
> on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test
> performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the
> 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
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