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herb@londo.ac.duke.edu (Herb Commodore) wrote:
>Uh, anything? uh, how about Kroger on Hillsborough? It's open and it's got
>a deli section (tho it's "closed" in the wee hours)...or what about Walmart?
>doesn't it have a little grill or something?

The Wal Mart on US 70 (Glenwood) is not what I'd call "in Durham" since
it's actually within the Raleigh city limits.  The other Wal Mart, the one
in Durham, is not open 24 hours. 

As for Kroger, yes you can go there in the middle of the night to buy 
food, but not prepared food served restaurant-style.

In other words, we have six restaurants that serve truckstop-style food 
to truckstop-style clienteles, but no place that you can go to to get a 
cup of coffee and a sandwich and sit and linger for an hour or two.  Just 
_try_ lingering for an hour or two with your textbooks (note: I am not a 
college student -- I cite this merely as an example) at a Waffle House.  
They'll badger you to vacate the booth the minute you're done eating. :)
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>Enlighten me, please.  Tell me about all the great late-night restaurants
>and/or 24-hour diners and/or places to grab a bite after 1 am that I have

I don't know about "great" restaurants, but there's Honey's (open 24 hrs) 
and Miami Subs (open til 2 am).  That's really about it.  If you want 
pizza, you can order from Wild Bull's til 3 or 4 am, except on Monday 
when they're closed (for what reason?!).  

But I agree.  Durham is lame when it comes to late night activities, 
particularly dining.  I'm used to having Taco Bells open til 4am for 
drive-thru, but here they close before midnight.  Durham doesn't even 
have a Denny's that I'm aware of.  Is there an IHOP anywhere?

Oh.  I failed to mention Pan Pan Diner.  They're open 24 hrs.  It's not 
bad, I guess, but the only memories I have there are eating a plate of 
cold grits and 3 packets of butter on a dare, so I haven't been crazy 
about going back.

bcook@acpub.duke.edu (Brian Cook) wrote:
>I don't know about "great" restaurants, but there's Honey's (open 24 hrs) 
>and Miami Subs (open til 2 am).  That's really about it.  If you want 
>pizza, you can order from Wild Bull's til 3 or 4 am, except on Monday 
>when they're closed (for what reason?!).  

I'd forgotten about Honey's, not having ever been there; when I first
moved to Durham I was royally screwed over by an apartment rental referral
place located next to Honey's and I've had an antipathy toward that whole
exit ever since.   But yes, that's one datapoint.

>But I agree.  Durham is lame when it comes to late night activities, 
>particularly dining.  I'm used to having Taco Bells open til 4am for 
>drive-thru, but here they close before midnight.  Durham doesn't even 
>have a Denny's that I'm aware of.  Is there an IHOP anywhere?

Durham has no Denny's.  There is an IHOP on Hillsborough Road in
*Raleigh*, but none in Durham.  However, there's a *new* IHOP at an exit
off I-40 in Burlington, so it looks like they're sneaking this way bit by
bit. 

>Oh.  I failed to mention Pan Pan Diner.  They're open 24 hrs.  It's not 
>bad, I guess, but the only memories I have there are eating a plate of 
>cold grits and 3 packets of butter on a dare, so I haven't been crazy 
>about going back.

They're actually not all that bad.  Well, not all that bad during daylight
hours.  I have on occasion waited 45 minutes for a simple order at 9 pm. 

So let's see:

Waffle House at 54/55
Waffle House at 54/Fayetteville Road
Waffle House on Hillsborough Road
Pan Pan Diner at Hillandale Road and I-85
Honey's at Guess Road and I-85
Steak and Egg Kitchen at Main Street, just west of Brightleaft Square

All greasy-spoon type places.  

And then, yes, you can get Miami Subs until 2 am, but, well...

Anything out there that's not a greasy spoon that's open all night?
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Uh, anything? uh, how about Kroger on Hillsborough? It's open and it's got
a deli section (tho it's "closed" in the wee hours)...or what about Walmart?
doesn't it have a little grill or something?

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In article <3o4sgl$2u0@news.duke.edu>, Brian Cook <bcook@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
[no night-owl restaurants in Durham]

>Oh.  I failed to mention Pan Pan Diner.  They're open 24 hrs.  It's not 
                          ^^^^^^^
>bad, I guess, but the only memories I have there are eating a plate of 
>cold grits and 3 packets of butter on a dare, so I haven't been crazy 
>about going back.

Heh. PAN PAN is the international radiotelephone urgency preamble,
which spoken three times precedes any message that's worse than a bad
thunderstorm but not as bad as a sinking ship. Inauspicious name for a
diner, methinks.


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In article <3o6a3e$mqf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>,
   spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) wrote:
>Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.

	Well, I'm a heathen that works night shift..  and what's your point? :)

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spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) writes:
} Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.

Because God hides in dark alleys and mugs and rapes people late at night?

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garrett@cs.unc.edu                like them, I have others."  -Groucho Marx

I just gotta say that I whole-heartedly agree with this here spooky 
fellow. Like they said in my favorite movie, Full Metal Jacket, "Ain't 
but two kinds of people out after 11, and that's steers and queers, and 
you ain't got a head to hang your hat on, boy" or ah, something along those 
lines.

My doctor says I'm a little funny in the head, but I ah, told him, it's 
just all the bran.

So, my point was: if you're out after 11, you deserve, ah, whatever 
happens to ye. Be it rape, or ah, liberalism.

Signing off,
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spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) wrote:
>
> Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.

So all the cops; firefighters; telephone operators; gas station and
store clerks; waiters, cooks, bussers and dishwashers (except in 
Durham); truck drivers; USPS, FedEx, UPS, etc. workers; air traffic
controllers; military personnel; jail, mission, shelter, and health
clinic staff; emergency doctors and nurses; security guards; third
shift factory workers; radio and TV broadcasters -- in short, all 
the people who work their butts off to make your life so safe and
convenient -- are indecent, heathen foreigners?

Get a clue, you git.

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In article <3o611b$42e@news.duke.edu>, jfurr@acpub.duke.edu (Joel K. Furr) writes:
(chomp)
|> 
|> In other words, we have six restaurants that serve truckstop-style food 
|> to truckstop-style clienteles, but no place that you can go to to get a 
|> cup of coffee and a sandwich and sit and linger for an hour or two.  Just 
|> _try_ lingering for an hour or two with your textbooks (note: I am not a 
|> college student -- I cite this merely as an example) at a Waffle House.  

Not that this will help Joel, but... I notice that the Cup-A-Joe's in
Mission Valley (the one on Western Blvd, not the one on Hillsborough St.)
is open 24 hours a day through the NCSU final exam period.  A bottomless
cup of coffee will set you back $2.00.

In article <3o7unm$irg@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com>, Ed Green
<ed_green@vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) wrote:
> >
> > Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.
> 
> So all the cops; firefighters; telephone operators; gas station and
> store clerks; waiters, cooks, bussers and dishwashers (except in 
> Durham); truck drivers; USPS, FedEx, UPS, etc. workers; air traffic
> controllers; military personnel; jail, mission, shelter, and health
> clinic staff; emergency doctors and nurses; security guards; third
> shift factory workers; radio and TV broadcasters -- in short, all 
> the people who work their butts off to make your life so safe and
> convenient -- are indecent, heathen foreigners?
> 
> Get a clue, you git.

Er, you mean grit?

In article <3o4kbo$16v@news.duke.edu>, jfurr@acpub.duke.edu (Joel K. Furr) writes:
|> Enlighten me, please.  Tell me about all the great late-night restaurants
|> and/or 24-hour diners and/or places to grab a bite after 1 am that I have
|> somehow managed to overlook in my quest.  Surely there must be *some* out
|> there, right?
|> --


Hardee's on Holloway Street is open 24 hours a day.

In article <kamin_johnson-0305951159560001@banjo.cellbio.duke.edu>, kamin_johnson@cellbio.duke.edu (kam) writes:
>>
>> Get a clue, you git.
>
>Er, you mean grit?


He means "git."  Or he could.  "Git" is a term of British origin (I think)
meaning "twit" or "fool."  I don't know where Ed Green picked it up, but
I heard it during my hours spent watching "Monty Python's Flying Circus."

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I have to put in a defensive word here for Pan Pan - sounds like
folks here have had a bad experience or two, but I am a dedicated
Pan Pan regular & it's one of my favorite eateries in Durham
(the others being Nanas, Biscuit King, the Green Candle, the Palace,
& Neo China).  The Pan Pan is indeed open 24-7, and late nights
I am very partial to the patty melt.  They have the best lunch deal in town,
offered 7 days a week - a wonderful & cheap all you can eat buffet that
always features at least 2 kinds of tasty greens, awesome fried chicken, 
and their pit-cooked barbeque, which I think is the best 'cue in Durham
(well, tied w. Biscuit King).  Ribs,  too.  As well of lots of other things.
The buffet enlarges at dinner, to include wonderful fried oysters when
one's lucky :-).  They have a huge a la carte menu and (I can't believe
noone's mentioned this) said menu features the only NYC deli items 
available in Durham. Yes, real pastrami, tongue, chopped liver, etc. - it's
all from NYC & served in huge portions.  I love Pan Pan.  They have a
great mix of extremely kindly & extremely sullen wait staff, like any
self-respecting diner should, & a very diverse & entertaining clientele. 
I tried my  first (and last) chit'lins there, much to the combined concern/
amusement of the staff who rightfully wondered what the hell this stupid
Yankee girl was doing.  I can't say they didn't warn me...but apparently
the chitlins are good if you're into the chit'lin experience.
 
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In article <D80H32.E2L@unx.sas.com>, Ed Hughes <saseph@hal.unx.sas.com> wrote:
>
>"Git" is a term of British origin (I think)
>meaning "twit" or "fool."...

I have it from my British friends that a 'git' is several rungs down
the ladder from a 'twit'; like a 'bastard', but with no redeeming
qualities.

Henry Rich

> >> Get a clue, you git.
> >
> >Er, you mean grit?
> 
> 
> He means "git."  Or he could.  "Git" is a term of British origin (I think)
> meaning "twit" or "fool."  I don't know where Ed Green picked it up, but
> I heard it during my hours spent watching "Monty Python's Flying Circus."

I think he suggested "grit" instead of "git" b/c we were talking about
southern restaurants.  Sort of.  I don't know.  That's what I thought when
I saw it, and I laughed. 

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jfurr@acpub.duke.edu (Joel K. Furr) wrote:
> _try_ lingering for an hour or two with your textbooks (note: I am not a 
> college student -- I cite this merely as an example) at a Waffle House.  
> They'll badger you to vacate the booth the minute you're done eating. :)

I have done some hangin' out at the Waffle House on 54 with a couple of
other guys from my office, and we have occupied a booth for hourson end
with _no_ trouble from the management.  We did keep asking for refills on 
our coffee, though, so my experience is not a counterexample to 
your claim.

So if you leave a bite on your plate, and keep asking for refills, you 
might be okay.

Gregor
[I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a *rare* hamburger today!]

In article <mrh2-0305952106320001@macsrule.dorm.duke.edu>,
Michael Hoeffner <mrh2@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>> I have it from my British friends that a 'git' is several rungs down
>> the ladder from a 'twit'; like a 'bastard', but with no redeeming
>> qualities.
>> 
>> Henry Rich
>
>"Bastard" has redeeming qualities?

Oh, you might say, "That Jack Welch is one tough bastard".
A git gets no such respect.

Henry Rich

> I have it from my British friends that a 'git' is several rungs down
> the ladder from a 'twit'; like a 'bastard', but with no redeeming
> qualities.
> 
> Henry Rich

"Bastard" has redeeming qualities?

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In article <3o4kbo$16v@news.duke.edu> Joel K. Furr, jfurr@acpub.duke.edu
writes:
>It's a major continuing Peeve for me that Durham shuts down almost in its
>entirety by midnight each night.  Unlike the smaller college town of
>Blacksburg, Virginia, where I got my master's degree, Durham has virtually
>no late night restaurants or 24-hour convenience stores that sell nachos,
>burritos, hot dogs, and other staples of the food pyramid. 


TELL me about it! There's a Thai food place in Chapel Hill that shuts
down at something like 10 PM. Where I come from (California) Thai food
places had a reputation- they absolutely couldn't close before midnight.
The one closest to my college stayed open until three.

We had a donut place that was open and busy 24 hours a day- best donutsin
the world- we had to drive thirty minutes to get there, but everyone else
did it to. I went there final's week at 1 AM and there were college
students from every college in the L.A. basin.

Ah, the memories! Now if I want food at three AM I have to kick my
husband until he starts cooking.

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garrett@cs.unc.edu (Bill Garrett) wrote:
>
> spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) writes:
> } Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.
> 
> Because God hides in dark alleys and mugs and rapes people late at night?
Maybe God doesn't, but someone does.  Gunshots after midnight are 
commonly heard in Durham.  According to the Durham police reports the N&O 
prints (amongst the editorials masquerading as news), one's greatest 
opportunity to become featured in a two-inch story on street
crime is to be on the street between 1 and 6 am.

Gregor
[I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a *rare* hamburger today!]

Ed Green  <ed_green@vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

>spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) wrote:

>> Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.

>So all the cops; firefighters; telephone operators; gas station and
etc etc
>the people who work their butts off to make your life so safe and
>convenient -- are indecent, heathen foreigners?

>Get a clue, you git.

No, you get a clue. Don't take everything so seriously. Humor, boy, humor. 

Nate "On the Air Until 3AM" Florin

In article <D847or.6qM@unx.sas.com>, sasctw@duckhead.unx.sas.com (Tom
Wilson) wrote:

> In article <3ob1j6$7pc@capehenry.cs.unc.edu>,
> Henry Rich <rich@cs.unc.edu> wrote:

> >Oh, you might say, "That Jack Welch is one tough bastard".
> >A git gets no such respect.
> >
> >Henry Rich
> 
> On the other hand, it's hard to respect a bastard grade file (like
> the one in my toolbox ;-)

On the gripping hand, I'm prepared to respect *anyone* with a bastard
sword who's within ten feet of me and/or runs faster than I do...

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In article <3ob1j6$7pc@capehenry.cs.unc.edu>,
Henry Rich <rich@cs.unc.edu> wrote:
>In article <mrh2-0305952106320001@macsrule.dorm.duke.edu>,
>Michael Hoeffner <mrh2@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>>> I have it from my British friends that a 'git' is several rungs down
>>> the ladder from a 'twit'; like a 'bastard', but with no redeeming
>>> qualities.
>>> 
>>> Henry Rich
>>
>>"Bastard" has redeeming qualities?
>
>Oh, you might say, "That Jack Welch is one tough bastard".
>A git gets no such respect.
>
>Henry Rich

On the other hand, it's hard to respect a bastard grade file (like
the one in my toolbox ;-)


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In article <3obo6f$612@parsifal.nando.net>, Gregor <gregor@nando.net> wrote:

> garrett@cs.unc.edu (Bill Garrett) wrote:
> >
> > spooky@email.unc.edu (Pushkin) writes:
> > } Decent, God Fearing Americans go to bed before 11pm.
> > 
> > Because God hides in dark alleys and mugs and rapes people late at night?
> Maybe God doesn't, but someone does.  Gunshots after midnight are 
> commonly heard in Durham.  According to the Durham police reports the N&O 
> prints (amongst the editorials masquerading as news), one's greatest 
> opportunity to become featured in a two-inch story on street
> crime is to be on the street between 1 and 6 am.

The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!  Get your terrorist protection
kit NOW!!  Don't go out after dark!  Crawl up in a corner and wait to get
shot!  PARANOIA!!

Get a grip people.

kam

In article <3o611b$42e@news.duke.edu>,
Joel K. Furr <jfurr@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
}As for Kroger, yes you can go there in the middle of the night to buy 
}food, but not prepared food served restaurant-style.

Yes, but do't you think the healthy supply of 24-hour groceries (more here
than in Boston!) is one reason all the convenience stores close early? Why
stay open if your potential customers are just gonna head for Kroger or
Harris Teeter to get a better selection and lowerprices?

}In other words, we have six restaurants that serve truckstop-style food 
}to truckstop-style clienteles, but no place that you can go to to get a 
}cup of coffee and a sandwich and sit and linger for an hour or two.  Just 
}_try_ lingering for an hour or two with your textbooks (note: I am not a 
}college student -- I cite this merely as an example) at a Waffle House.  
}They'll badger you to vacate the booth the minute you're done eating. :)

OK, I must speak up for the Pan-Pan here. 

First, the clientele is *NOT* truckers. Head there on Friday night from
11pm-2am sometime, and you'll be amazed. It's packed with families, all
dressed up like they just came from church. Judging from some of the
conversation I overhear, they *did* just come from church.

The Pan-Pan may be a truckstop at other times, but during Friday nights
it's the happiest purely family-oriented restaurant I've ever seen. Last
night the owner was even hanging around as ususal, even though it was so
late, enjoying his customers.

How family-oriented? Read the notice on the door next time: it prohibits
any foul language.

And how many places are there in Durham where you'll be seated by a
courteous off-duty cop?

As for lingering: one night my friends and I got there about 11:30 and
left at 4 or so. One reason was we kept ordering a little bit at a time,
but it's not like we spent five hours just eating. We also sat and
talked, and I don't recall EVER feeling pressured to leave, even though the
place was fairly crowded the whole time.

And if you're looking for "a sandwich and a cup of coffee," you really
should head back there. They have NY-style deli sandwiches, everything
from turkey to tongue, and each sandwich is so big, you'll have to linger
just to finish it.

One other thing about the Pan-Pan attracts me: its diversity. When I'm
there, there sems to be a healthy mix of black and white, northerner and
southerner, even among the staff. For me, it helps contribute to the warm
atmosphere.

I hope I've made my point.

Tristan "Love the Patty Melts" Davies

In article <3o7unm$irg@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com>,
Ed Green  <ed_green@vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
}So all the cops; firefighters; telephone operators; gas station and
}store clerks; waiters, cooks, bussers and dishwashers (except in 
}Durham); truck drivers; USPS, FedEx, UPS, etc. workers; air traffic
}controllers; military personnel; jail, mission, shelter, and health
}clinic staff; emergency doctors and nurses; security guards; third
}shift factory workers; radio and TV broadcasters -- in short, all 
}the people who work their butts off to make your life so safe and
}convenient -- are indecent, heathen foreigners?
}
}Get a clue, you git.

Ya-hoo!!

Speaking as a TV-broadcst type who works from 3am to noon: thanks!
Tho' I'm not sure my job does much to make lives _safe_... I guess we'll
have to sellt for convenient. What if you couldn't see local news in the
morning?

What if a plane crashed at 4am and there was nobody to cover it? Would it
still make a noise?

Tristan "no, the toothpicks are for holding my eyelids up!" Davies

In article <kamin_johnson-0505951044240001@banjo.cellbio.duke.edu>,
   kamin_johnson@cellbio.edu (kamin johnson) wrote:
>The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!  Get your terrorist protection
>kit NOW!!  Don't go out after dark!  Crawl up in a corner and wait to get
>shot!  PARANOIA!!
>Get a grip people.

	Hey! If the legislature passes the bill on allowing citizens (after the 
appropriate training and background checks..) to carry concealed weapons.. that 
might not be a problem. ;)

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What about any good dance clubs in Durham?  I find it hard to believe 
that there is more for me to do in Greenville, SC than in Durham!  Do any 
of you know of any (safe) dance clubs?  I know of a place called Marzz 
that just opened in Raleigh, what comments does anybody have?

As far as late-night restaurants, if you do not want to go to the Waffle 
House, there is the possibity of Honey's off 85 at Guess Road.  It's fun 
to just sit around and drink coffee there.  Just be careful not to harass 
the state troopers that heppen to frequent the place!

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Joel K. Furr <jfurr@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>In Blacksburg, Virginia (a city I'd never expected to hold up as a model
[...many 24-hour restaurants made it]
>easy to get quick, hot food without having to sit down, place an order,
>and wait 15 minutes OR having to buy food and take it home and cook it
>yourself. 

OTOH, in the Triangle we do have A Southern Season, Fowler's Gourmet,
eleventy-zillion Asian food markets, etc., so that if you *do* want
to cook up some Salty Dou Hua, or a Thai curry, or a West African
palm-oil-based soup, or some feety Gorgonzola, or just scarf down a 
couple of gallons Devon Double Cream, in that dark night of the soul 
when it is always three-thirsty in the morning, you can do so with 
ingredients you've laid in from local groceries.  (Plus, if you
don't mind scaling electrified fences, you can get really, *really*
fresh lemur steaks, even -- nay, *especially* -- late at night.) 

On The Third Hand, vippysoo is within hailing distance of the
Texas Tavern in Roanoke, so maybe Blacksburg *is* the culinary
place where it's at, after all.

encarnaj@med.unc.edu (Tristan-B-Davies) wrote:
>In article <3o611b$42e@news.duke.edu>,
>Joel K. Furr <jfurr@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>}As for Kroger, yes you can go there in the middle of the night to buy 
>}food, but not prepared food served restaurant-style.
>
>Yes, but do't you think the healthy supply of 24-hour groceries (more here
>than in Boston!) is one reason all the convenience stores close early? Why
>stay open if your potential customers are just gonna head for Kroger or
>Harris Teeter to get a better selection and lowerprices?

In Blacksburg, Virginia (a city I'd never expected to hold up as a model
for others to emulate, but life is funny that way sometimes), we had a
24-hour Kroger with a 24-hour Hardee's and a 24-hour 7-11 within one block
of the Kroger; we also had 24-hour 7-11's elsewhere in town, making it
easy to get quick, hot food without having to sit down, place an order,
and wait 15 minutes OR having to buy food and take it home and cook it
yourself. 

I don't think the presence of 24-hour Krogers hurts the 24-hour restaurant
market; I think it's more likely that Blacksburg was a college town where
most of the kids weren't wealthy, weren't on any kind of points system
that allowed them to order pizza on their meal card, and were prone to
driving around.  I frequently hear the lack of good college-town-style
entertainment and dining opportunities in Durham blamed on the Duke
students, who simply stay home in the dorm and order pizza with Daddy's
money.  I believe they now have a meal card at VPI&SU that allows students
to get food delivered on said card, but that wasn't the case when I was a
student there and grabbing nachos at 4 am from various late-night places. 


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In article <3o6jei$qnd@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, rlw4867@email.unc.edu  Like 
they said in my favorite movie, Full Metal Jacket, "Ain't 
>but two kinds of people out after 11, and that's steers and queers, and 
>you ain't got a head to hang your hat on, boy" or ah, something along 
those 
>lines.
>

Sorry Bo. Great quote, wrong movie. It's Officer and A Gentleman, not 
Full Metal Jacket. Said by Louis Gossett Jr.

Hey, but when it comes to music...Bo Knows. It's true.

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tindall@mercury.interpath.net (Bruce Tindall) wrote:
>(Plus, if you
>don't mind scaling electrified fences, you can get really, *really*
>fresh lemur steaks, even -- nay, *especially* -- late at night.) 

Late at night, the lemurs that aren't behind locked doors have all gone to
bed up in the tops of the trees; they're hard to get at.  Bring your
climbing crampons and also a gun and a lot of ammunition and prepare to be
shot at yourself. 

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In article <3o5neh$9h8@news.duke.edu>,
Herb Commodore <herb@londo.ac.duke.edu> wrote:
>
>--
>
>Uh, anything? uh, how about Kroger on Hillsborough? It's open and it's got
>a deli section (tho it's "closed" in the wee hours)...or what about Walmart?
>doesn't it have a little grill or something?
>

that's funny. In the last two months I have been there at times ranging from 
1am to 6am and have never had a problem getting a sub. They're on of the
best subs I've ever Bought. They're rather inexpensive also.

James Wagner
james@cds.duke.edu

In <3os5mk$l3t@news.duke.edu> jfurr@acpub.duke.edu (Joel K. Furr)
writes: 
>
>sasdch@hechtor.unx.sas.com (Darylene Hecht) wrote:
>>Hardee's on Holloway Street is open 24 hours a day.
>
>Huh?  Where's there a Hardee's on Holloway?  Holloway is NC 98, right,
>running in from Wake Forest to the Durham library?

Like people in New Zealand really care. Why don't you DELETE all of
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sasdch@hechtor.unx.sas.com (Darylene Hecht) wrote:
>Hardee's on Holloway Street is open 24 hours a day.

Huh?  Where's there a Hardee's on Holloway?  Holloway is NC 98, right, 
running in from Wake Forest to the Durham library?
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fyi, the Hardee's rest. is on Miami Blvd.,
where it crosses Holloway Street. also, fyi
Holloway Street eastbound becomes the 
Durham/Wake Forest Highway (NC98) after 
passing Junction Road, .5 miles distant
from the drive-up window at the Hardee's
on, uh, Miami Blvd.

and(,) as long as you're talking about my
favorite subject, the BEST biscuits in the
area are flung at Biscuit Time, a humble
shelder (you'll see) located on (ruff-ied)
Hwy 98, the voluted 4-laner known locally
as....Hwy 98. All meats are served perfectly
dead, and the prices are very reasonable.
The biscuit sandwiches are large! (.9 miles
from Hardee's)(don't forget to bear left,
heah?!?) 

currently, the SAFEST biscuits in the area
are at the Biscuitville located acrost the
intersection from......a yup...Hardees.
It burned THG 4 months ago, and the new
shell is up already. (i luv the south)

if you hanker for a canker, there's always
one of the Waffle House grease boutiques,
located at opposite ends of the socio-econ
spectrum known as Durham.

bond at your tights!

chris
cslacke@nando.net

who the hell is joel k'furr?