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Mr Markov writes...

>Tim Arnold is the system administrator for the Statistics Instructional
>Computing Lab (SICL) at North Carolina State University.  Those of you 
>interested in the FreeNet should take a look at his policies, as set
>forth in his SICL Introductory Manual:
>
># All student accounts are monitored randomly [...] Any files
># that do not relate to the class for which the student is enrolled
># will be removed.
>
>(Ah, I thought you said FREEnet.)

[Several more lines of similar gibberish removed]

I don't recall Mr. Arnold saying that the Freenet would be the same
system as the SICL or that it would be administered under the same
policies.  The creation of a Freenet is completely CONSISTENT with
these policies as universities often have to enforce guidelines on
the usage of student accounts and students who want more "free" or
"unrestricted" access have to look elsewhere (i.e., Freenet).

># You can always connect to SICL, except for: 
>#  - from 8:00 am to 9:00 am Monday-Friday.  This time is reserved
>#    for SICL maintenance.
>
>(Or, in other words, this is when Tim goes through everyone's files.)

Do you have anything better to do with your time than launch
personal attacks on individuals attempting to do some good?
I have no idea who Tim Arnold is, but your post is clearly a
personal attack which has little to do with the Freenet issue.

Grow up.

-- 
 Alan M. Gallatin <alan@acpub.duke.edu>     |  The opinions contained in this
 Duke University School of Law; Durham, NC  |  post are statements of fact.

In article <1992Jul23.221359.7895@ncsu.edu> brent@eslabb.stat.ncsu.edu (mr markov) writes:
>
>Tim Arnold is the system administrator for the Statistics Instructional
>Computing Lab (SICL) at North Carolina State University.  Those of you 
>interested in the FreeNet should take a look at his policies, as set
>forth in his SICL Introductory Manual:
>
># All student accounts are monitored randomly [...] Any files
># that do not relate to the class for which the student is enrolled
># will be removed.

Sounds like the account referred to above is a class account made
available to students to do classwork.  Contrary to some people's
belief, these accounts are NOT private, and are not usually presented 
as such.  Any system administrator who wants to avoid the screams of 
hundreds of crazed and desperate students with "disk full" messages 
on their printouts at the end of every semester is wise to encourage 
users to be thrifty.  

># You have 500 kilobytes allocated to your SICL account [...]
># It is best to keep this number below 400.

>(Saves him time when he goes through your files.)

Uh, yeah, right.

># You can always connect to SICL, except for: 
>#  - from 8:00 am to 9:00 am Monday-Friday.  This time is reserved
>#    for SICL maintenance.
>
>(Or, in other words, this is when Tim goes through everyone's files.)

Most system administrators have at least a couple of other things 
to do than to waste a lot of time reading student's files, random
checks notwithstanding.

What it boils down to... there is nothing unusual, underhanded,
dishonest, or surrepticious about a policy such as the one quoted
from State's SICL handbook.

Needless to say, this, uh, ..., mmm, "poorly conceived" warning of
"mr markov" should not (imho,oc) reflect negatively on any efforts 
to establish the Freenet that is being proposed. 

Scott

P.S.  Basically, I second everything that Mr. Gallatin posted, except, 
of course, for that crudely vicious personal attack!!  ;-)

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