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I have had many response's directly (none to the group's) and I thought that
I would share the results in a summary format as actually requested by one
responder.

- First, anyone who has sent a response - Thank you very much.
- Second. I have deleted all emails after copy/pasting the info into a word
doc. Thus even your IP's are not stored.
- Third, by me posting the results in a summary format, everyone stays
anonymous as only my IP address is being shown.
- Forth, I would still like to hear from more people and I am happy to take
the e-mail's directly. Please email me at a22196105@nospamhotmail.com
(You must remove "nospam" from my return email address if you do wish to
contact me).

I make no judgements, only post the results to date.

Summary:
-Employees dissatisfied with many area's such as how the company is run and
how the product is developed.
-Company is slow to respond to suggestions, complaints and bug reports.
-Low turnover in employees
-Stale Attitudes
-Management focused on appearances
-Tunnel vision from all
-Lengthy release cycles
-Working hard not smart
-Tunnel vision with product (no flexibility to change direction once
started)
-Top exec's get new company (SUV style) vehicles every year
-Need more focus on the results
-Many employee's just going through the motions as the motions are basis for
evaluations
-Sales team needs to be more aggressive...reliant on product selling it's
self (referral sales)
-Very little output from Marcom - no high visibility messages
-Dedicated HR/IT teams to support employees
-No lay offs with recent lower share value (salary's frozen and cut in some
instances)
-Some (not all) management are old style believing that verbal abuse will
motivate
-Reliable product
-Not responsive to customer needs at any level
-Secure unchanging environment
-Well defined roles and responsibilities (inflexible)

Thank you for your responses and I hope there are more to come.

"responses" <a22196105@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:27wSb.64578$Kg6.772050@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I have had many response's directly (none to the group's) and I thought
that
> I would share the results in a summary format as actually requested by one
> responder.
>
> - First, anyone who has sent a response - Thank you very much.
> - Second. I have deleted all emails after copy/pasting the info into a
word
> doc. Thus even your IP's are not stored.
> - Third, by me posting the results in a summary format, everyone stays
> anonymous as only my IP address is being shown.
> - Forth, I would still like to hear from more people and I am happy to
take
> the e-mail's directly. Please email me at a22196105@nospamhotmail.com
> (You must remove "nospam" from my return email address if you do wish to
> contact me).
>
> I make no judgements, only post the results to date.
>
> Summary:
> -Employees dissatisfied with many area's such as how the company is run
and
> how the product is developed.
> -Company is slow to respond to suggestions, complaints and bug reports.
> -Low turnover in employees
> -Stale Attitudes
> -Management focused on appearances
> -Tunnel vision from all
> -Lengthy release cycles
> -Working hard not smart
> -Tunnel vision with product (no flexibility to change direction once
> started)
> -Top exec's get new company (SUV style) vehicles every year
> -Need more focus on the results
> -Many employee's just going through the motions as the motions are basis
for
> evaluations
> -Sales team needs to be more aggressive...reliant on product selling it's
> self (referral sales)
> -Very little output from Marcom - no high visibility messages
> -Dedicated HR/IT teams to support employees
> -No lay offs with recent lower share value (salary's frozen and cut in
some
> instances)
> -Some (not all) management are old style believing that verbal abuse will
> motivate
> -Reliable product
> -Not responsive to customer needs at any level
> -Secure unchanging environment
> -Well defined roles and responsibilities (inflexible)
>
> Thank you for your responses and I hope there are more to come.
>
>

Hmmmm sounds like my old workplace summed up to a tee!!

Hello all,

If you had submitted a resume to an agency, then the next day realised that
some work experience had been left off (from 10 years ago, but cut-out as
you had tailored your resume to suit prospective employers) but still quite
relevant to the current position applied for...what can you do? Is it worth
contacting the agency, apologising and asking to resumbit your resume, or
leave it and bring it up if you are contacted for further information?

Many thanks..
Tim.

timbo wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> If you had submitted a resume to an agency, then the next day realised that
> some work experience had been left off (from 10 years ago, but cut-out as
> you had tailored your resume to suit prospective employers) but still quite
> relevant to the current position applied for...what can you do? Is it worth
> contacting the agency, apologising and asking to resumbit your resume, or
> leave it and bring it up if you are contacted for further information?
> 
> Many thanks..
> Tim.
> 
> 

If you submitted your CV (resume tends not to be a phrase much used in 
the UK) for that specific post then a competent agency will have already 
sent it off....however you may be lucky in that they have not (as they 
will alter it, removing your address, contact details etc. and sometimes 
they put it in "house format".
If its already gone to potential employer then you are stuck, but best 
thing is to contact agency and see if they have sent it to the employer.

Agency will not mind, they get a cut if you get a job, anything you can 
add to CV to increase your chances is fine by them.

No competent agency will send off your resume without contacting you first.
If you think the information is relavent of course call them and eplain what
happened and ask who to send it to. You may actually get noticed doing this
in the middle of the storm of paper they have to deal with yours will stand
out.

"viridis" <viridisREMOVESPAMPROTECTION@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:c3bksf$2n4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> timbo wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > If you had submitted a resume to an agency, then the next day realised
that
> > some work experience had been left off (from 10 years ago, but cut-out
as
> > you had tailored your resume to suit prospective employers) but still
quite
> > relevant to the current position applied for...what can you do? Is it
worth
> > contacting the agency, apologising and asking to resumbit your resume,
or
> > leave it and bring it up if you are contacted for further information?
> >
> > Many thanks..
> > Tim.
> >
> >
>
> If you submitted your CV (resume tends not to be a phrase much used in
> the UK) for that specific post then a competent agency will have already
> sent it off....however you may be lucky in that they have not (as they
> will alter it, removing your address, contact details etc. and sometimes
> they put it in "house format".
> If its already gone to potential employer then you are stuck, but best
> thing is to contact agency and see if they have sent it to the employer.
>
> Agency will not mind, they get a cut if you get a job, anything you can
> add to CV to increase your chances is fine by them.
>
>
>
>
>
>

I agree, just send them the new one and explain the situation (perhaps
more briefly -- just tell them you sent the wrong version, no need for
details)..  a headhunter worth working with would gladly update your
records with more current info.

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:00:53 GMT, "Kegger" <dutchhard@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>No competent agency will send off your resume without contacting you first.
>If you think the information is relavent of course call them and eplain what
>happened and ask who to send it to. You may actually get noticed doing this
>in the middle of the storm of paper they have to deal with yours will stand
>out.
>
>"viridis" <viridisREMOVESPAMPROTECTION@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>news:c3bksf$2n4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>> timbo wrote:
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > If you had submitted a resume to an agency, then the next day realised
>that
>> > some work experience had been left off (from 10 years ago, but cut-out
>as
>> > you had tailored your resume to suit prospective employers) but still
>quite
>> > relevant to the current position applied for...what can you do? Is it
>worth
>> > contacting the agency, apologising and asking to resumbit your resume,
>or
>> > leave it and bring it up if you are contacted for further information?
>> >
>> > Many thanks..
>> > Tim.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> If you submitted your CV (resume tends not to be a phrase much used in
>> the UK) for that specific post then a competent agency will have already
>> sent it off....however you may be lucky in that they have not (as they
>> will alter it, removing your address, contact details etc. and sometimes
>> they put it in "house format".
>> If its already gone to potential employer then you are stuck, but best
>> thing is to contact agency and see if they have sent it to the employer.
>>
>> Agency will not mind, they get a cut if you get a job, anything you can
>> add to CV to increase your chances is fine by them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

"viridis" <viridisREMOVESPAMPROTECTION@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:c3bksf$2n4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> timbo wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > If you had submitted a resume to an agency, then the next day realised
that
> > some work experience had been left off (from 10 years ago, but cut-out
as
> > you had tailored your resume to suit prospective employers) but still
quite
> > relevant to the current position applied for...what can you do? Is it
worth
> > contacting the agency, apologising and asking to resumbit your resume,
or
> > leave it and bring it up if you are contacted for further information?
> >
> > Many thanks..
> > Tim.
> >
> >
>
> If you submitted your CV (resume tends not to be a phrase much used in
> the UK) for that specific post then a competent agency will have already
> sent it off....however you may be lucky in that they have not (as they
> will alter it, removing your address, contact details etc. and sometimes
> they put it in "house format".
> If its already gone to potential employer then you are stuck, but best
> thing is to contact agency and see if they have sent it to the employer.
>
> Agency will not mind, they get a cut if you get a job, anything you can
> add to CV to increase your chances is fine by them.

Thanks Viridis - I appreciate your help, I've contacted the agency and are
awaiting their feedback.
tim.