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Started by John Sessoms
Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:44
Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: John Sessoms
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:44
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:44
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Anyone know what the status is on this?? I've noticed a real dropoff in the last few days in a number of text groups that I follow. I was wondering if this had gone into effect. -- I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to blame! John Sessoms
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: UNS Support
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:24
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:24
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John Sessoms <no.one@no.where.invalid> wrote in news:3D29A532.25D6BA7B@no.where.invalid: > Anyone know what the status is on this?? > > I've noticed a real dropoff in the last few days in a number of text > groups that I follow. I was wondering if this had gone into effect. > > -- > I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. > All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to > blame! > > John Sessoms > > There was a passive UDP by Supernews only from June 20th and 21st. Since then there has been no other UDP activity. Supernews began accepting arctiles again the 21st or 22nd. Thanks, Stephen
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: MeteredBytes
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:25
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:25
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what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. "John Sessoms" <no.one@no.where.invalid> wrote in message news:3D29A532.25D6BA7B@no.where.invalid... > Anyone know what the status is on this?? > > I've noticed a real dropoff in the last few days in a number of text > groups that I follow. I was wondering if this had gone into effect. > > -- > I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. > All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to > blame! > > John Sessoms >
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: Larc
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:37
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:37
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:25:45 -0400, "MeteredBytes"
<nospam@pammispam.com> wrote:
| what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up.
Me too. I'm at a disadvantage here because I don't speak Initial.
;-)
Larc
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Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: Hal Burgiss
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:02
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:02
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On Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:37:29 GMT, Larc <larc@rnc.rr.com> wrote:
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>| what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up.
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> Me too. I'm at a disadvantage here because I don't speak Initial.
> ;-)
$ dict udp
4 definitions found
From Jargon File (4.3.0, 30 APR 2001) [jargon]:
UDP /U-D-P/ v.,n. [Usenet] Abbreviation for {Usenet Death Penalty}.
Common (probably now more so than the full form), and frequently verbed.
Compare {IDP}.
[...]
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Hal Burgiss
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: John Sessoms
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:47
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:47
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MeteredBytes wrote: > > what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. Usenet Death Penalty. What I understood is that BellSouth supposedly allows "open proxies" (not sure exactly what that is) and SPAMMERS can hijack them to use BellSouth's access into WUN to flood newsgroups with SPAM. The other news server companies are pissed at WUN & BellSouth because they don't appear to be doing anything to stop it. The Usenet Death Penalty would mean that nothing from BellSouth and WUN would be accepted by other servers, meaning that you could post, but your post would only be seen by people whose news server accepted posts from BellSouth & WUN. On BellSouth we would still see all the messages from the other servers, but anyone not on BellSouth & WUN would be unable to see our posts. At least, that's the way I understand it. > > "John Sessoms" <no.one@no.where.invalid> wrote in message > news:3D29A532.25D6BA7B@no.where.invalid... > > Anyone know what the status is on this?? > > > > I've noticed a real dropoff in the last few days in a number of text > > groups that I follow. I was wondering if this had gone into effect. > > > > -- > > I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. > > All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to > > blame! > > > > John Sessoms > > -- I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to blame! John Sessoms
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: Folk
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:54
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:54
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:25:45 -0400, "MeteredBytes" <nospam@pammispam.com> wrote: >what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. Usenet Death Penalty. When other Usenet providers get together (or act alone in some cases) and refuse to propagate posts from the offending provider. If a full UDP was issued against WUN, then the posts from WUN's subscribers would only show on WUN's servers and would not be propagated to other providers. Usually there is a chain of events. The offending provider is warned, and then given a certain amount of time to clean up their act. If they don't then the UDP can be initiated. It is up to each provider to decide whether or not to participate.
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: John Sessoms
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:14
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:14
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Folk wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:25:45 -0400, "MeteredBytes" > <nospam@pammispam.com> wrote: > > >what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. > > Usenet Death Penalty. When other Usenet providers get together (or > act alone in some cases) and refuse to propagate posts from the > offending provider. If a full UDP was issued against WUN, then the > posts from WUN's subscribers would only show on WUN's servers and > would not be propagated to other providers. > > Usually there is a chain of events. The offending provider is warned, > and then given a certain amount of time to clean up their act. If > they don't then the UDP can be initiated. It is up to each provider > to decide whether or not to participate. And a proposal to do just that to BellSouth & WUN was forwarded to bellsouth.net.support.news-service around the middle of June. I believe the original proposal was posted in news.admin.net-abuse.policy. I just wanted to find out if there was any further information, particularly if they were planning to go ahead with it? -- I do not speak for any corporation, government or organization. All opinions expressed are uniquely my own. Ain't nobody else to blame! John Sessoms
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: Mike Cothran
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 22:08
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 22:08
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Larc wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:25:45 -0400, "MeteredBytes" > <nospam@pammispam.com> wrote: > > | what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. > > Me too. I'm at a disadvantage here because I don't speak Initial. > ;-) > Larc That is actually TLA that you do not speak, or acrco for longer. Mike C
Re: Proposed UDP against BellSouth & WebUseNet
Author: Hi there
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 05:31
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 05:31
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Well, BS, get your shit together and stop allowing open proxies to the news servers. On Mon, 08 Jul 2002 17:14:04 -0400, John Sessoms <no.one@no.where.invalid> wrote: >Folk wrote: >> >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:25:45 -0400, "MeteredBytes" >> <nospam@pammispam.com> wrote: >> >> >what is UDP? Be interested to learn more about whats up. >> >> Usenet Death Penalty. When other Usenet providers get together (or >> act alone in some cases) and refuse to propagate posts from the >> offending provider. If a full UDP was issued against WUN, then the >> posts from WUN's subscribers would only show on WUN's servers and >> would not be propagated to other providers. >> >> Usually there is a chain of events. The offending provider is warned, >> and then given a certain amount of time to clean up their act. If >> they don't then the UDP can be initiated. It is up to each provider >> to decide whether or not to participate. > >And a proposal to do just that to BellSouth & WUN was forwarded to >bellsouth.net.support.news-service around the middle of June. > >I believe the original proposal was posted in >news.admin.net-abuse.policy. > >I just wanted to find out if there was any further information, >particularly if they were planning to go ahead with it?
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