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#27
From: C.S.Chen
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 00:00
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�ѭ���, �ǥ� e-mail, �� News/BBS, ...

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�j�h�ƤH�i��|�o�{, �ܮe�N�N�i�H "�Ƿ|" �ϥ� Internet...

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David Liu (scliu@ms1.hinet.net),Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:07:00 GMT wrote:
: On 3 Apr 1996 09:25:32 GMT, lky@ms1.hinet.net (lky) wrote:
: >    �����U����ͻ��n��p�A���o�w�b���o�G�o�g�峹�A�p�G�z���O HINET
: >�Τ�Ш��̡A��O�]�w��z���ڭ̪���ʡC

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newsgroups, �n������ user �������O�ϥ� HiNet ���@��.

HiNet ���� ? �ѹ���, �ڤ��� HiNet, �ҥH�ڤ��|������. ��M, �]�\�N��
�ڷ|��, ���L��ɫ�A��. �ڷQ, �ثe�\�h���� HiNet ���H, �ܥi�઺�P��, 
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���. �_��, �h�Ƥ��O HiNet �� user, �����򥲭n�h���A ?  �ݤ��X��.

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user, �]���A���o�ة��, �J�� crosspost, �v�q��l�F. �o�� BBS �� user,
�|�b�o�\�h���P�� newsgroups/board, ��Ū��A�����峹. �o��L�̦�z ?
�L�̤S���@�w�O HiNet �� user. (���j�h�Ƥ��O)

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���|�S���o�إ\�� ?

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�g�b�V�A�ۤ� ( �T������, ���O�g�`���s�i�� ? ) !

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�O�W, �{�b�S���O�u�� HiNet �@�� ISP, �]�S���W�w�A, �@�w�n HiNet,
�~�i�H�W Internet . 

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user, �o�˰�, ²�����I���O "�묹�O�H, �ӷӫG�A(��)�ۤv", �o���Ӧn�a !
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���O HiNet user �̵L��) �\�h user ��ı�v�q��l, ���γo�ؤ覡�Ӿx,
�Ʊ�a�o�ؤ覡�ӸѨM. ����N�i�঳�X�ر��p:

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   �N�S���򳹪k, �R�b���� post, �N�����ا�. �]���h�ƪ� user, �i
   ��|�o�{, �C�@�� newsgroups/board, �u�O�W�r���P(�n�_�� ?),
   �i�O���e/�\�ೣ�t���h. �̫�, �j���N�i������u�ѤU�@��� 
   newsgroups/boards.

 * �Ҧ� HiNet ( or �i��䥦�� ISP, ���p����), �]����L�s�u���� user
   ��ij, �`����o���U�� message, ��O system administrator, �u�n
   ���_�M�o�� ISP ���T���洫. 

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      ��@ ��, ���i�H�b News ��, �]�w�N�g�L�Y���� post, filter �˱�.

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   �J�� post �@�ǶäC�K�V�� binary �{���X, or �@�ǩ_�_�ǩǪ� pictures.
   �M��䥦�� site, �ھ� user ������, �N�u�n�M�w�N ISP B �� filter ��,
   �䥦�� ISP �ݤF, �ܧ֤]�Ƿ|, �M�w��i, �p�k���s, ��O ISP A, ISP C,
   ISP D, ... �����Q filter ��...

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   �̤j���ɶ�, ������b�]�w�o�@�j�� filter �]�w�W...

   ��̫�, �Ҧ��� Netnews server, �M�s�u BBS site, ���s�u, �S�ܦ��|��
   ����, �̫�, �i��S�ܦ��q�e�� standalone BBS site �@��.

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�ڭ̥��Ӫ��D�H��, �ӳo�@��, �ݤj�H������. �٬O�ӳo�@��, �Ǻ��ۧڶB.

���ާA�O �t�κ޲z��, �t�θg�窺 ISP, �٬O��ı��e�}�� user, �бz
��o�Ӱ��D�h�Q�Q. 

���S����t�n, �ۤv������. ���n��F�@�ӪB��, �o�o�o��h, �쥻�i��
�����B�ͪ��H.

PS.

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   �٦��@��, �J�� post, binary program �H�� picture ��B�å᪺ user,
   �\�h ISP ��_�B, �����@�N�o�o, �ثe���Ȥ�. �u�O, �o���H binary data
   ��«, �z�Z�@��¬��\Ū text �峹�ӨӪ� user, �O�ܤj���ˮ`. �p�G,
   �u�O ISP �ӤH�g�� local BBS, �䥦�H�j�����n�L��.

   ���L, ���ѳo�� post, �b�s�u News/BBS �o���«, ���`�� data �y�q,
   ��ϥΪ̬J����K( �L�N�q�� post �ܦh), ������u�\Ū�� user, ��
   �n��L�̥ժ� ��]��������, �ӤU��o�Ǽo��.

   �\�h�H�]�\�|��, �������򤣧ˤ@�DZM�̬y�� binary files �� newsgroups ?!
   ���, ���N�@�j��F, �S�󥲹��D�K�� ?

2.
���U�O�ӽg complain �峹, ��媺 header.
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From: chen@cc.nctu.edu.tw (C.S.Chen)
Subject: �������λP�ϥΪ�(�A)�Ш|
Date: 1996/04/04
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