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Article #2135Re: Where are the marching Muslims?
From: Jeff Cowen
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:06
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:06
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Hi Monte, Monte wrote: > No, I do not need more conscience. What I do need however, are > readers who will read slowly each word and sententence in order. Then > study them within the context of the paragraph and message. If such > were done instead of skimming and letting their minds paste > preconceived notions of their own over my words no misunderstanding > would exist. It would be glaringly clear that I have never condemned > all Muslims, and that those things I described and suggested are > things that I believe are felt by some about them. It is some Muslims > who are the ones exasperated because of others reations to them. I > then I added what I thought might help that problem. I would have > told any Bubba the same thing had he whined about having those > problems in Italy or Egypt. I disagree, but will only occupy bandwidth on specifics. :o > Of course as UUNET is famous for veering completely away fromthe > original the issue after only one layer of responses. Well sure! You could've mentioned Hitler and invoked Godwin's Law to terminate the thread anytime you liked. ;) > Where I did lay a more general blanket upon Muslims was in the > seemingly tacit approval of terrorists by many Muslim nations. > Nations are made up of their peoples, so in that instance, yes I was > referring to Muslims in general in those countries. Surely you are aware that democracies are a scarce resource in the Arab/ Muslim world. Surely you know that in many places the punishment for dissent [cherished as free speech here in the West] is death. You know these things. And yet you would still hold Muslims anywhere in the world responsible for what certain governments do??? No can do! > I do not deny > that, and I will not withdraw the charge until concrete proof of the > opposite is shown. That ain't the way justice works. Ya can't accuse somebody/something and judge them guilty until/unless proven innocent. The onus is on you to prove your case, which you have not done. > One last point I tried to make clear, but which was almost universally > ignored is that I address all comments and suggestions and conclusions > leading to what I say to one specific instant of time. > > Everything I say on this issue refers from the minute of the first > tower being hit. Things, have changed. Some are now irrelevent to > events. Anything done prior to that act has assumed a different > relevance than that which it had before. With all due respect that can be translated as saying that you only became prejudiced against Muslims at the time of the attacks. Well, what kind of defense or argument is that? How admirable does that make you? Whatever. I think both of us feel there's not a whole lot left to say that hasn't already been said. All I can add is that I hope that you are kind to others who aren't like you, and that they are kind to you as well. Peace, - Jeff -- Jeff Cowen \@ ^\ '98 Rans V-Rex \==-\-% Waltham, MA () O http://www.BlueSNAFU.com/ -- v2.50
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