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Jamesg@msn.com wrote:
> 
> The problem is that when a woman goes into an abortion clinic, she already
> has a child in her womb.  What if my prospects looked bleak when the child
> was two?  Could I kill the child?  By your logic killing the child would be
> a virtue.  If you don't want to have a child, don't have sex.

Me personally? I don't. But then again, the ability to engage in celibacy is
something for which evolution obviously doesn't select.

But I'll be damned if I'll let someone tell a woman that she hasn't the right
to control her own reproductive tract.

> 
> The point is, whatever your judgements on your child's future, you still
> can't murder the child.

What child? You're talking about an unborn potential human. A human infant
couldn't possibly survive in the Garden of Eden on its own until maybe a year
old. Note that not even nannies call an infant a child. A child can take care
of itself until something horrible such as exposure, illness or predators
happens to it. An infant might as well be in the womb; and as well as in the
womb it's utterly dependent upon the will of the parent to preserve it. If it
is the will of the parent that it not be preserved, let the will of the parent
be honored, if not considered laudable.

>  I might also point out that you aren't an oracle
> or a seer.  You could be wrong about the quality of your child's life to
> come.  Even if her life was to be a hell, I doubt the child would come up
> at the age of 8, or even 30 and say, "I wish you had me aborted.  Better I
> never went through this pain called life."  It's just not even conceivable.

Heh heh heh heh (falling down laughing)! You've never had a teenager and you
for damned sure haven't got 9/10ths of my friends! Please see news:alt.gothic


>  Please.
> 
> See, STAZI, the point is this.  You aren't interested in the welfare of the
> child at all.  Decisions like this are made because you don't want to crimp
> your lifestyle or wealth.  Don't make out greed and selfishness to be a
> virtue.  That's laughable.
> 
> STAZI <stazi@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> <01bdc7b6$39529290$165033a1@nt3103>...
> > There are millions of babies that go hungry everyday.  Even in the US,
> > there are thousands that have no future, because they are born in broken
> > homes where no one gives a shit.  Rather than a life of poverty and
> misery,
> > or to grow up and spend a life in the ghetto or the jail--I'd rather not
> > let the baby be born in such deplorable conditions.  If I cannot
> guarantee
> > a college education, and/ or a decent life for my child, then I have no
> > right to have a child!  Rest if you like trash around you so much--why
> > don't you go and adopt a baby from a crack head mother in the ghetto!!!!
> > --
> > shaskivich said so!!!
> >
> > Jamesg@msn.com wrote in article <01bdc7b4$65f22290$d25333a1@nt3128>...
> > > What logic.  The first sentence doesn't even merit refutation.  Any
> human
> > > would understand why I would care.  So you'd kill a man so your wife
> > could
> > > kill her baby?  You are so completely morally bankrupt you have no
> sense
> > of
> > > right and wrong.  You have no sense of value for human life and
> dignity.
> > > You are scum.
> > >
> > > STAZI <stazi@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > > <01bdc77e$88866e00$165033a1@nt3103>...
> > > > If it isn't your baby, why do you care?  If my wife wants an
> abortion,
> > > and
> > > > someone tries to stop her, I'll shoot the scum!!!!!
> > > > --
> > > > shaskivich said so!!!

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