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Re: What Do Dictators Fear Most? GUNS in the hands of the People! Isnt that right Mr. Castro???????? Re: Shooting At The ...

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From: Jorge R. Frank
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 00:00
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George Worley wrote:
> 
> In article <35B9FC7F.52CA@swbell.net>, tracey12@swbell.net says...
> 
> > Therefore, some people will use weapons in the commission
> >of a crime.  Similarly, we readily jump into our SUVs and fly down the
> >highway at breakneck speeds knowing full well that we have a real chance
> >of being killed while driving.  And, we know that 40,000 to 50,000
> >Americans die each year on the highway just going to work, or shopping,
> >or out to dinner.  That is a huge amount of death!
> 
> Actually deaths to gun fire is quite higher:
> 
> Forty-five percent of all gun deaths reported worldwide take place in
> the United States,  which has the highest rate of gun deaths among the
> world's industrialized nations. The Associated Press reported April 16
> that the U.S. gun-death rate was 14.24 per 100,000 people, far higher
> than the next highest nation, Brazil, which had 12.95 gun deaths per
> 100,000 people.
> 
> In 1995 (sorry don't have the figures for 1996 or 1997), there were
> more the 5000 innocent children killed by guns.
> 
> >As many Americans die in car accidents each year as died in the entire
> >history of the Vietnam war!
> 
> In 1996, 32,317 people died in car accidents nationwide.  In 1997,
> 42,000 people died in accidents nationwide... let see how many died in
> Vietnam: Total died (includes friendly fire) or MIA: 58,202.   Your
> statement is false therefore a liar or you trying to mislead the
> public?  IMHO, you are doing both.

42,000 car accidents comes to 16.15 deaths per 100,000, disproving your
earlier statement that the rate of deaths to gun fire is higher.
> 
> >They do fear a public that is highly armed and willing to shoot to maintain
> >their God Given, Constitutionally Recognized Rights.
> 
> Here we go with the GOD GIVEN RIGHTS... The rights of the US
> Constitution are not GOD GIVEN, the are only given by the people of
> the land that hold this document dear to their hearts which I don't
> see you doing.

The same founding fathers who wrote the Constitution also wrote the
Declaration of Independence, which states: "We hold these truths to be
self-evident, that Man is endowed by the Creator with certain
inalienable rights..."   In other words, our rights weren't granted by
the government; we had them all along, and we create government for the
purpose of securing these rights.  The Constitution contained only a
partial enumeration of these rights; the Ninth Amendment even expressly
states such.

> Your goal to kill not maintain a balance of power.  GUNS do not do
> this.  Violence never lead to anything except blood shed.

It was the use of orchestrated violence that ended Nazism in Germany,
Fascism in Italy, and Militarism in Japan.  I hope we do not see a
rebirth of Fascism in the USA but if it does, it will end the same way.
-- 
JRF

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From: "Jorge R. Frank" <jrfrank@ibm-pc.org>
Subject: Re: What Do Dictators Fear Most?  GUNS in the hands of the People!  Isnt that right Mr. Castro????????      Re: Shooting At The Capital
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