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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:17:36 GMT, "JerryMouse" <nospam@bisusa.com>
wrote:
>
>"Monte" <montep@email.com> wrote in message
>news:3d96be9d.30043109@news.ev1.net...
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17124-2002Sep28.html
>>
>> Not that many people have had doubts on the subject, this article
>> pretty conclusively shows that the saber rattling towards Iraq is at
>> least in large part due to a personal problem between the Bushs' and
>> Hussein.  Yes, peripheral opportunists are making their cases for
>> there own personal reasons as well, but it is GeeDub who the media and
>> the populace tend to listen too.  However, that tendency seems to be
>> working against the modern day Barker family, as quotes from Dubya get
>> more widely circulated.
>
>Doesn't matter about the motivation. Saddam needs to import a LOT of jelly,
>because his country is about to be toast.
>
>>
>> The public is finally starting to grasp that something 'smells' about
>> all the dire danger of Iraq talk from the Whithouse.  they are
>> beginning to wonder if maybe the rest of the world just might for
>> once, have reason to question this Presidents credibility.  Especially
>> since absolutely no hard proof has come forth in the past months that
>> confirm some of the outrageous contentions being made by Rumsfeld,
>> Rice, Cheney and the chimp.

>
>You bring up a point that I have trouble understanding: the permission or
>participation of the rest of the world. To me, something (Saddam in this
>case) is not virtueous or evil depending on the majority vote. Saddam is not
>innocent until the jury votes he's guilty. Killing Saddam's wicked ass is
>not meritorious simply because the leaders of a few countries agree; killing
>Saddam is praiseworth in and of itself without reference to any external
>thoughts or policies.
>

You completely miss the crux of the issue.  Permissions is not the
question, nor any component of the problem; What is the issue is what
is to be done with the rubble after the 'evil one' has been deposed.
How many troops will be necessary and for how long?  How much money in
aid?  How do you deal with the short-term disruption of oil supplies
and the resulting hit to the worlds economy?  This is a world issue,
at least the developed/industrial world.  It's going to be very
expensive with many unkown ramifications, all of which can lead to
bigger problems.  If the act is done in concert with at least a large
part of the G8 nations then it might be somewhat less onerous in its
aftermath.


>>
>> Notice the last sentence of the article, it tells a book full.
>
>"I hate Saddam Hussein" (GB-41). Tells it like it is. I hate Saddam Hussein,
>too. I don't know anyone personally who doesn't hate Saddam Hussein.
>

Do you even see the road when you drive?  Do you have even a glimmer
of the concept of motive?

>>
>> "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart
>> people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean
>> it."  --Mark Twain
>
>Mark Twain did not say this. Lawrence J. Peter is the author of the quote.
>And the actual quote is: "I have yet to discover whether we are being
>governed by well-meaning fools or by very intelligent people who are just
>putting us on."
>
>But, hey, it's the thought that counts.
>

Hmmmm, I think I commend your diligence in the pursuit of the trival.
I cannot prove or disprove with ease whether or not Mark Twain is the
author of that quote.  I can say after some moderate effort I could
not verify that a Lawrence J. Peter actually said anything.  The only
references were to an obscure engineer and a fellow buried in some
Ohio graveyard.  

My interest in the verification of the origins of taglines used on the
internet, I have to admit, is near the bottom of my priorities. 
But heaven forbid I should add even slight discomfort to those with
the time to search out the 'dust bunnies' beneath the couches of the
usenet.  So, in that spirit I have adjusted the quote to read,
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart
people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean
it."  --Mark Twain - or someone who spoke a helluva lot like him

I suspicion that if you were half as energetic and diligent about
researching and thinking about the issues instead of the footnotes you
might actually gain an underwstanding at a level that would permit
your actually contributing substance to the discussion of those
issues.  ....then again maybe not :(

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart
people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean
it."  --Mark Twain - or someone who spoke a helluva lot like him