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Fair enough. Maybe it's the particular school I teach in (HS), but at our
level, I don't remember the chaos that I see everyday back in my High School
days. I remember a true fear, of smarting off to a teacher or my parents.
And no, my parents never beat me. In fact, I can only remember 1 or 2
spankings growing up.
 Oh, and believe me, with 3 teenagers I've experienced the talking back.

Just a point, could it be that the students you see, are not the ones that I
am talking about ? Motivated, good students whom are looking for a education
? Versus those that cause the most trouble in High School who are the least
likely to attend a University ?




<srt@nospam.unt.edu> wrote in message
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> In dfw.general apt <aptex@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Honest question Steve. Do really think kids have the same respect today
for
> > teachers and parents than kids when you grew up ?
>
> For the most part, yes, I do think so.  Let me add other data point:
> I'm a professor at UNT, so I see a hundred or so kids every year that
> have gone through the public schools here.  There have been changes
> over the past 11 years that I've been teaching at universities, but I
> have never had any problems with lack of respect or failure to accept
> authority, either now or in the past.
>
> Now if you want to talk about the astounding decrease in mathematical
> preparation of students over the past 15 years, I'll rant and rave about
> that for a while!  :-(
>
> > I'm assuming of course that your 30+.
>
> Pretty safe bet....  :-)
>
> > I can say personally, we didn't dare back talk a teacher or our parents
> > growing up, out of respect.
>
> Teachers, yes.  And I haven't seen anything to make me think this has
> changed.
>
> But parents?  Oh please....  unless someone entirely skips the ages of
> 3 to 18, I doubt there's a single kid anywhere in the world that
> hasn't back talked their parents.  It's part of being a kid and
> testing limits.  The only question is whether the parents let them get
> away with it (which I hope they don't!).
>
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