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Re: More of the Bush 'Family Values'

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From: srt
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:59
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In dfw.general apt <aptex@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:

> Just a point, could it be that the students you see, are not the ones that I
> am talking about ? Motivated, good students whom are looking for a education
> ? Versus those that cause the most trouble in High School who are the least
> likely to attend a University ?

Well, "motivated" isn't a term I would apply to all university
students...  I have certainly had students who were unwilling to put
in the work required to really learn C.S., but they don't typically
pass my classes!  But as far as "attitude", I've never had a student
who didn't understand that it was his fault if he failed and why he
deserved an F...   However, you're right that the true trouble-makers
in HS wouldn't be here --- or certainly wouldn't make it to my classes
as I don't teach the intro classes.

Actually, the only real dissent was about 10 years ago at another
university.  I caught a student cheating, turned him in through the
university channels, and the university judicial board found him
guilty.  That meant his football scholarship was cancelled, and this
was a very expensive private university.  I got a call at home from
his mother (the only time that has happened!), all upset about how I
could consider her baby a cheater and ruin his life like this.  I
think the student understood how he had done it to himself better than
his mother did....

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Subject: Re: More of the Bush  'Family Values'
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