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In article <3avn0r$hd4@bashful.cc.utexas.edu>, 
<krehn@bashful.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
> >As to guns and their uses, I see no use for them at all.
> 
> I'm sure there are many rape victims who would disagree with you that
> firearms have "no uses".  Although the idea of using martial arts or
> non-lethal weapons is appealing, many individuals (especially those who
> are elderly, of smaller physical stature, or have specific physical
> limitations) are at a significant disadvantage against a large violent
> attacker.  If non-lethal weapons and martial arts were completely
> effective, the police wouldn't carry guns.  

	Argh!  I tried to ignore it, but it couldn't be done!  Anytime 
somebody spouts off with something like "use martial arts for self 
defense" I get all crazed.  From one who knows (black belt rank, 10 years 
of experience) - you can use martial arts for self defense effectively 
after 3-5 years, depending on how good or how lucky you are.  And even if 
you are skilled and experienced, someone who is a lot bigger and even 
*close* to your own skill rank WILL kick your ass (unless you are *very* 
lucky.)  Period.
	Something that nobody ever brings to this discussion is the 
equalizing effect of firearms.  Size, strength and skill at arms make all 
the difference if there are no equalizers like firearms.  If there are no 
equalizers we go back to "might makes right" and I don't think anybody 
wants to see that return.  Remember feudalism?

> 
> >my arrogance: so be it. Holding and shooting a gun is just like alcohol 
> >and drugs, something we could use a lot less of. Too many damn guns. 

	An obvious case of pathological dislike for the tool.  Have you 
yelled at your hammer recently?

> >gun for but to kill something. Bullshit on that target stuff, most 
people 
> >shoot at silhouttes of people. White people shoot at Blacks and 
Hispanics 
> >at the target ranges. They are just feeding their addiction of hate.

	How odd.  I'll bet all those bullseye shooters never realized how 
much concealed hate they had for their paper straw men.  Get real!  Do bow 
and arrows count here too?