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In article <1994Nov23.212417.22114@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Fred McCall) writes:
> Most of these flame-bait idiocies do.  And of course, there are always
> the clueless, busily adding MORE groups to the thread. 

Well. Tell you what. If you want to know who is really the clueless one
in this thread, you should look in the mirror. Just about every time
you post you show your ignorance of issues and your ignorance of cultures
that disagree with your own. For example let's take a look at this
paragraph:

[...]
> individual's use of the road.  Bicycles pay no road use tax.  You and
> most other bicyclists (as opposed to bikers, whose vehicles generally
> do burn gasoline -- just to prevent a bit of confusion, since someone
> added tx.motorcycles to the list) are not covered for your road use

The only 'bikers' in tx.moto are those of us who ride bicycles. I believe
that you have two main problem with your postings:

1) Many of your statements are presented as facts, not opinions, and are
often incorrect. For example, the term 'bikers' is used to describe either
members of outlaw motorcycle gangs, or bicyclists. 'bikers' is not used to
describe people in general who ride motorcycles.  They are called
"motorcyclists".

You presenting your definition of 'biker' (which disagrees with that
accepted by all of the cultures involved) as a factual definition, shows
your lack of research concerning the issue.

2) You lack regard for cultures other than your own. In this case, your
culture appears to consist of people who, like you, drive automobiles 
and get really bent out of shape when some other culture's values get in
your way, and yet can't see that you are causing difficulties for others.

I noticed that you didn't respond to my posting about you getting in the
way of motorcyclists. Ah. Didn't ever think of that? Never considered that
your driving habits or choice of vehicle most likely causes other people
the same kind of problems that bicycles post to you???  Well think again.
And while you are at it, maybe try to realize that *every* person/vehicle
gets in someones way sometime. As a motorcyclist, I realize that automobiles
are severely handicapped as compared to my vehicle. I also realize that few
cagers pay much of any attention to what they are doing when sitting behind
that wheel. But do I rant and rave and accuse them as a class of impeding my
progress?  No. I simply realize their limitations and deal with them in a
reasonable manner, just as I can easily deal with bicyclists and their
limitations.  Guess what? I also realize that as a motorcyclist, *I* have
times when I imped other vehicles' progress. Yet I don't usually see anyone
trying to run me over... I certainly have problems with cagers, but that's
mainly because of impaired reasoning abilities, not some inherent problem
with the vehicle itself.

Not to mention that you appear to be quite prone to exagguration:

> Being trapped behind a bicycle doing 5 in a 45 and watching a big long

A person can walk 5 mph quite easily. I don't believe any commuting bicyclist
is going to be travelling at 5 mph. I can't even pedal up a hill that slow.
20+ mpg unless road conditions prohibit such is usually the norm unless
climbing a hill. 40+ mph is quite feasable going downhill. I was even pulled
over in 1972 for travelling 50mph in a 45mph zone on Lamar on my Benotto.

I'd suggest that you open your eyes and see that there is more than one
culture travelling your nearby roads, that they have just as much right
to travel those roads (given they obey the law, etc) as you do, and like
pretty much everyone else is able to do, learn to accept them and deal
with them in a civilized manner.

Threatening to run over a class of vehicle operators because they imped your
progress isn't acceptible. Accept that and life will be a lot more pleasant
for you and those who have to deal with you.

-- 
Kent Polk: kent@eaanu.nde.swri.edu