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Kent Polk (kent@eaanu.nde.swri.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994Nov23.212417.22114@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Fred McCall) writes:
: > Most of these flame-bait idiocies do.  And of course, there are always
: > the clueless, busily adding MORE groups to the thread. 

: Well. Tell you what. If you want to know who is really the clueless one
: in this thread, you should look in the mirror. Just about every time
: you post you show your ignorance of issues and your ignorance of cultures
: that disagree with your own. For example let's take a look at this
: paragraph:

: [...]
: > individual's use of the road.  Bicycles pay no road use tax.  You and
: > most other bicyclists (as opposed to bikers, whose vehicles generally
: > do burn gasoline -- just to prevent a bit of confusion, since someone
: > added tx.motorcycles to the list) are not covered for your road use

: The only 'bikers' in tx.moto are those of us who ride bicycles. I believe
: that you have two main problem with your postings:

: 1) Many of your statements are presented as facts, not opinions, and are
: often incorrect. For example, the term 'bikers' is used to describe either
: members of outlaw motorcycle gangs, or bicyclists. 'bikers' is not used to
: describe people in general who ride motorcycles.  They are called
: "motorcyclists".

Speaking of someone posting their own opinions as facts, see your
comments above.  As for cluelessness, well, if the label seems to fit
you ....

: You presenting your definition of 'biker' (which disagrees with that
: accepted by all of the cultures involved) as a factual definition, shows
: your lack of research concerning the issue.

Oddly, none of the people I know who ride have ever objected to it.
Perhaps you're the one trying to assert your own definition as being
universal rather than local (where local may be anything from Texas to
your bedroom in scope).

: 2) You lack regard for cultures other than your own. 

All this and you read minds, too?  I *am* impressed.

: In this case, your
: culture appears to consist of people who, like you, drive automobiles 
: and get really bent out of shape when some other culture's values get in
: your way, and yet can't see that you are causing difficulties for others.

: I noticed that you didn't respond to my posting about you getting in the
: way of motorcyclists. Ah. Didn't ever think of that? Never considered that
: your driving habits or choice of vehicle most likely causes other people
: the same kind of problems that bicycles post to you???  Well think again.

Or maybe some of us just have real jobs and real lives and better
things to do than respond to idiotic postings?  The only reason I'm
bothering with this one is because the machine I'm compiling on just
crashed and I have to wait for it to come back up.

Personally, you sound exactly like the sort of yutz that gives people
who ride such a poor reputation (not to mention what you do to the
reputation of people who use the net).

If you want more than that, you'll have to wait until your diatribes
trickle into my home machine and I have time to burn.  Right now, it's
running behind because I just moved it to a new house, and I'm running
behind for similar reasons.

: Not to mention that you appear to be quite prone to exagguration:

: > Being trapped behind a bicycle doing 5 in a 45 and watching a big long

: A person can walk 5 mph quite easily.

You must know some most peculiar people.  I think you'll find that 3
MPH is closer to a walking pace; 4 MPH is a very fast walk.

: Threatening to run over a class of vehicle operators because they imped your
: progress isn't acceptible. Accept that and life will be a lot more pleasant
: for you and those who have to deal with you.

Who the hell threatened to run over anybody?  The only threats I saw
were from some idiot suffering from testosterone poisoning who started
rambling on about using a gun to protect his right to bicycle and from
you (wrt kicking off mirrors).  All *I* said was that if bicyclists
wanted to ride on busy streets, they needed to learn to pedal much
faster so as not to impede traffic.  

Apparently, there are a couple of folks out there who need some better
way to prove their manhood than by posting to the net, if they can
take that simple remark as some kind of threat and respond with the
ranting we've seen on here.

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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