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Article #3182Re: Bikes (was Re: GUN CONTROL)
From: David L. Cathey
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 20:12
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 20:12
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In article <D.Nash-1511941309020001@bubba.ots.utexas.edu>, D.Nash@utexas.edu (Donald L. Nash) writes:
> In article <dodd-1511940707090001@reliant.arlut.utexas.edu>,
>>A few simple questions then: Do you think that if bikes were to adhere to
>>these standards they would then truly be equals?
>
> I believe that if bikers were held to these same responsibilites then they
> would be paying the same price as drivers for the same privileges. As it
> is, they get the same privileges at a lower cost.
So do you compared to a trucker. However, cyclists do not get the
same privileges.
>>and if so, the fact that is upsetting is that bikes get a free ride?
>
> Not a free ride, since bikers pay the other taxes that go into road
> construction, but a less expensive ride. Yes, this bothers me.
So why should you get a less expensive ride than an 18-wheeler
driver?
> It should only be a small incremental cost to collect the registration
> fees, since everything is already in place to do this with the current
> registration facilities that handle cars, trucks, and motorcycles.
But if the cost of the licensing is simply just to cover the cost
of providing the licensing, I don't see where any benefit it occuring other
than just to take money to be taking it.
> For
> operator licensing, I don't see the need to conduct on-the-road operator
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> testing because riding a bike is just too easy. Only the written part of
> the test, which judges knowledge of traffic laws, would be necessary.
What? Are you suggesting that the RESPONSIBILITIES of licensing be
DIFFERENT for cyclists?
> And
> since drivers must also pass this same written test, a operator's permit
> for a car would also allow the holder to operate a bike. Since almost all
> bikers are also drivers, the net increase in the load at DPS would be
> negligible.
No so. There are many children who ride bikes, but are not old enough
to have an operators permit or license of a motor vehicle.
> As for vehicle safety inspections, well, that doesn't seem
> necessary because there isn't nearly as much to go wrong with a bike as
> there is with a car (I am willing to be proved wrong here), unless someone
> else (not me), wants to propose that bikes be required to have running
> lights and other things that would need inspecting. I mentioned
> inspections only for completeness, not because I think something should
> actually be done about it.
Yet that is something you complained about bikes not have to do,
i.e. bikes do not have that responsibility! And you willing to waive that
one as well?
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