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In article <16NOV199420393926@rosie.uh.edu>, troy@rosie.uh.edu (Belding, Troy C.) writes:
> In article <1994Nov15.235428.19443@montagar.com>, davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes...
>>	Okay, we have the same rights as documented by the Texas Motor
>>Vehicle Code.  While on the rode, we have the same responsiblities to
>>obey the traffic laws (speed, stop signs, etc...) as any other vehicle
>>as documented by the Texas Motor Vehicle Code.  Now, if you want to
>>read the Texas Motor Vehicle Code and tell me why you believe you have
>>more rights than cyclists, I'd be happy to see your reference.
>> 
> 
> Who needs a reference?  I would very baldly state anywhere that bicyclists
> have earned less rights.  I have yet to see a bicyclist do any of the 
> following.  a) have the legal number of reflectors, 

	Which is?  There is no "legal number of reflectors", though many
bikes do come with them.

>                                                     b) have a headlight
> at night,

	Which is not legal, and as such, is not an "unearned right".  I
know of many cyclists that do have lights for their bikes, including myself.
 
>           c) Stop at a stop sign, or obey any sort of right of way.

	Again, not legal, and not an "unearned right".  I know many cyclists
that obey traffic signals, as well as daily see cars fail to observe
traffic signals.  Does this mean that cars have unearned rights?

> d) Actually walk the bike across the intersection, as required by law.

	Actually, this is NOT required by law.

> I also see a large number riding down the wrong way on the street.

	Unfortunately, this is probably due to an idea that this was
safer (since the cyclist can see the car coming), and was commonly taught.

> Many of them don't even wear light clothing at night.  If I hadn't been
> alert, I would have killed one at 1:00 AM one day, because he blythely
> rode across an intersection without even LOOKING!  And I had the right
> of way, having just stopped at the intersection.  I had just started to 
> move when the sucker just blitzed across the intersection.

	Unfortunate, and the cyclist was in the wrong, but I still don't
see how this has any bearing on rights as defined by law.

> So no, bicylists do not, and should not have the rights, as they have 
> not earned them.  Once cops start giving out tickets to cyclists, impounding
> the bikes, and forcing them to obey the laws like cars do, then I will 
> think that they may have rights.

	And I think the cops ought to give them the tickets.  But lack of
enforcement does not grant nor recind their rights.

> (I will admit, I also do not see many cars admitting the 3/4 lane ownership
> by a bike as well)

	So, the cars should not have rights, either?

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