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In article <laskaCzJEML.HuE@netcom.com>, laska@netcom.com (Andrew Laska) writes...
>Belding, Troy C. (troy@rosie.uh.edu) wrote:
> 
>: > 
>: >c) Stop at a stop sign, or obey any sort of right of way.
>: > 
>: >You are getting ridiculous.
> 
>: Bullshit. Are you telling me that you have not watched a lot of cyclists
>: just blithly making turns without signalling, ride straight through signs,
>: give no warning about anything?
> 
>A friend of mine used to live in an apartment that had a view of a 4 four 
>stop sign. I was watching the intersection through the window. In about 
>an hours time I noticed that NOT ONE motor vehicle stopped at the stop 
>sign unless there was another vehicle already in the intersection. Do we 
>conclude by your 'paranoid' (your words) logic that we stop all motor 
>vehicle traffic because motorists have not earned rights??
> 
No.
Tickets, yes.  

I have no problem with a biker going through an empty intersection, I just
have a problem with the ones that don't look, slow down, or anything.
I will also admit, that most of the ones that cause the problem are
quite likely teenage and under.  This makes no difference in that there
is still a problem.  

Motor vehicle operators, however badly they may actually drive, have taken
some kind of test to show that they know the rules of the road.  So they
know what they are breaking, and are taking a deliberate risk.
Cyclists, on the other hand, have no such requirements. (I would like to 
see that, although I think $16, like for cars, would be a bit steep)
Many would probably start obeying, and the others, well, perhaps thenn
they would get the attention from the police they deserve.


>You have a selective memory. Secondly you WOULD like bicyclists to behave 
>in such mean and nasty ways and really believe that all bicyclists have 
>horns on their heads and all motorists have halos. Continue the fantasy. 
>Maybe you can wrote a book.
> 

Gee, I wish I could, I could use the money.

> 
>: > 
>: >: I also see a large number riding down the wrong way on the street.
>: >: Many of them don't even wear light clothing at night.  If I hadn't been
>: >: alert, I would have killed one at 1:00 AM one day, because he blythely
>: >: rode across an intersection without even LOOKING!  And I had the right
>: >: of way, having just stopped at the intersection.  I had just started to 
>: >: move when the sucker just blitzed across the intersection.
>: > 
>: >Well I got robbed by an African-American once. So therefore, they should 
>: >no rights and we should lock them all up... Makes a lot of sense huh?
>: > 
>: >I dont think so....
>: > 
> 
>: This doesn't follow.  People get robbed by all colors, not just blacks.
>: And a large number do end up in jail.  As in class of criminals, not 
>: class of race.
> 
>BINGO!!!! All sorts of people using the roadways break laws. Some are 
>more visible through your rose colored glasses than others...
> 
Ah, but most of those people also run a risk of a ticket.  
How many *Houston* cops do you know of would even give a cyclist a second
glance?



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I'll get a life when it is proven          Troy C. Belding
and substantiated to be better             TROY@JETSON.UH.EDU
than what I am currently                   My statements and opinions are not
experiencing.				   those of this institution.
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