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In article <laskaCzK6x3.1sz@netcom.com>, laska@netcom.com (Andrew Laska) writes...
>Belding, Troy C. (troy@rosie.uh.edu) wrote:
>: > 
>: Obviously not as ignorant as you.  Yes, many, if not most of automobile
>: drivers break the law.  But, unlike the bikers I often see, they are
>: at least aware of their surroundings.  The most blatant example are 
>: all of the bikers on the wrong side of the road. 
> 
>: Go by your local library and look in their books of statutes on bicyles.
>: Vernon's would be a good one, although that is primarily Texas.  We are 
>: all limited by our research, and our local knowledge, but at least I 
>: try to be more aware.  
> 
>DUH!!! Gee pal do you think I pulled these opinions out of an old coffeee 
>can in my cupboard. When I say to you "Courts have consistently...." that 

You did not say to me.  perhaps to an earlier poster.  I came into this
thread late.  

I said nothing about being inconvienced.  I certainly have no problems
giving the lane to a biker, or waiting until the next lane is clear to 
pass so I do not risk him/her, or even waiting until one crosses 
an intersection.  

You gave me no sources, no court cases, and no indication of research.
I never bothered trying to fabricate things, unlike you.  Cease putting
words in my mouth, or on my keyboard.

Go down to the DPS office, ask them.  Do NOT go to the courts. 

I don't CARE what the courts have done.  As shown by the settlement
against McDonalds for that woman who burned herself with coffee, 
the court systems are FUCKED.  Rather, go by the actual laws themselves.

I doubt you know what Vernon's books of statutes are, let alone where 
to find them, and this incoherent series of statements with bad spelling
and grammar is simply confirmation of this. 


>might mean what? Gee lets see..... Maybe I actually read about legal 
>decisions involving bicycles!!! WoW. When I say to you "The commerce 
>department published a study on bicycle traffic that concluded...." that 
>might mean I have done what?? hmmm I dunno... Maybe I ACTUALLY RESEARCHED 
>THE SUBJECT. I give you interpretations of Texas Law from the courts 
>no less and an extensive Commerce Dept study on bike accidents. You give 
>us ficticious laws involving walking bicycles across streets. Follow your 
>own advice. Go study up...
> 
>Look. De facts be this. Courts have consistently uphelp that bikers may 
>behave as motor vehicles on the roadway even if it inconveniences 
>motorists. This is an interpretation of Texas Law. 

They don't.  That is what my contention has always been.  How many people
drive down the wrong way on the street deliberately?


>Bikers behaving as auotmobiles under normal circumstanes (i.e. not 
>on interstate highways and such) are statistically less likely to be 
>involved in accidents according to the Commerce Dept study.
> 
>: To be honest, if there is noone else on the road, or quite a distance
>: between us, I really dont give a sh*t what a bicylist, car driver, or 
>: twinkie on a skateboard does!  But when they don't even show common
>: sense (as in the joggers that jog on a busy road when an empty sidewalk
>: is six feet away), then I get really offended.  All insults aside, I 
>: have yet to see a cop go after a cyclist for anything more than chaining
>: his bike to a traffic sign.
> 
>Maybe you might conclude then that the bikers are not breaking the law. 
>You have a deluded sense of what the law is. I have no doubt that if you 
>can dream up ficticious non-existant laws you can dream up situations in 
>your own memory with a greater frequency then they actually occur.
> 
> 

Seems like I am not the one doing the true dreaming.

>Andrew
> 
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I'll get a life when it is proven          Troy C. Belding
and substantiated to be better             TROY@JETSON.UH.EDU
than what I am currently                   My statements and opinions are not
experiencing.				   those of this institution.
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