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Article #3285Re: Bikes (was Re: GUN CONTROL)
From: Siddarth Subramanian
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:29
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:29
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In article <dodd-1111941109060001@reliant.arlut.utexas.edu>, Stirling S Dodd <dodd@cayman.asg.arlut.utexas.edu> wrote: >To add my OPINION, I feel that bikes and cars can coexist so long as >bicyclists use a little common sense (not ride up Lamar during rush >hour for instance) and cars show a little more curtousy. I'm all for courtesy, but I question your assertion that riding up Lamar during rush hour is discourteous. What if I'm on a bicycle trying to get to a destination on Lamar at rush hour? Why is it not discourteous for a driver to be driving there making it inconvenient for the cyclist but not vice versa? What if a major road like Lamar is the fastest and most convenient way to get from A to B? Why should the cyclist give up the convenience of choosing such a route simply because some drivers object to the 10 or 20 second delay that his/her presence causes? >When I >cycle, I try to avoid narrow streets where I know that I'll have to >ride obtrusively in the traffic lane, and stick to less travelled >streets. When I drive, I give as wide a berth to cyclists that I can >when I pass, I slow down, and I'll even drive behind them slowly until >a safe opportunity for both of us to pass arises. There simply isn't >anywhere I need to be so quickly, that I can't take 15 seconds to >treat a cyclist with caution and curtousy. So your definition of courtesy is for the cyclist to give up convenience and for the motorist to simply drive safely and legally? As you say, it usually takes only 15 seconds to treat a cyclist with caution and courtesy. An alternative route for the cyclist may take many *minutes* longer and if their destination is on the major road, it may not even be possible to find such a route. In my opinion, courtesy cuts both ways. Bikes and cars can coexist if everyone realizes that cyclists and drivers are simply trying to get to their destinations, and we all respect the rights of others. This includes the right to use Lamar at rush hour. -- Siddarth Subramanian siddarth@cs.utexas.edu Austin, Texas, USA
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,faf138bd852a6ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid104ad1,public X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,642977eedb6b415e X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: fd714,44a840f94edd3e03 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd714,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,642977eedb6b415e X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-11 11:30:21 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: siddarth@cs.utexas.edu (Siddarth Subramanian) Newsgroups: tx.general,dfw.general,austin.general,tx.politics Subject: Re: Bikes (was Re: GUN CONTROL) Date: 11 Nov 1994 13:29:35 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 44 Distribution: tx Message-ID: <3a0gmv$1dnq@foghorn.cs.utexas.edu> References: <39r0m3$h1k@oak.zilker.net> <Ztbmk8mjjy24072yn@DCSBORG.CLS.COM> <D.Nash-1111940958320001@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> <dodd-1111941109060001@reliant.arlut.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: foghorn.cs.utexas.edu