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Article #3416Re: GUN CONTROL (was: Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor
From: Fred McCall
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:58
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:58
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Tom G (tomg@bnr.ca) wrote: : In article <38rnln$38j@crchh572.bnr.ca>, rnichols@bnr.ca (Robin Nichols) writes: : > : > I've been trying to say this the past couple of days ... : > anti-gunners will come up with any "example" to try and : > make their point. Anything. Even though it can be beaten : > down in a New York minute. Most of us "gun-lovers" are open : > to change, but not total banishment or restriction. That's : > all they will accept however. : What a stereotype. You don't really believe this I am sure. : What if one says that all pro-gunners only want TOTALLY unrestricted, : undocumented access ALL TYPES of guns? This is about an equal statement : to yours. Only for very large values of 'about'. : No anti-gunner with common sense honestly believes that you can get rid : of guns over night. Many just want restrictions. Many want to : pursue the goal of significant control to varying degrees. With elimination over some time longer than a single night. : Guns can never be completely eliminated. But many societies have : significantly reduced their criminal use by minimizing availability. Name a single society which has shown reduced crime (not just firearms crime, but demonstrate that there was no 'substitution effect' by showing REDUCED CRIME) through the use of weapons restrictions. Laws only impact people willing to follow them. Criminals aren't. Bad laws make good citizens into criminals (cf: Prohibition). -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd714,44a840f94edd3e03 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd714,public X-Google-Thread: f59be,2e27125b926e6893 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59be,public X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,642977eedb6b415e X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,faf138bd852a6ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid104ad1,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,642977eedb6b415e X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-01 17:34:41 PST Newsgroups: tx.general,dfw.general,austin.general,tx.guns,tx.politics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!moxie!ernest!m2.dseg.ti.com!news.ti.com!mksol.dseg.ti.com!mccall From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Fred McCall) Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL (was: Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor Message-ID: <1994Oct31.175818.9529@mksol.dseg.ti.com> Followup-To: tx.general,dfw.general,austin.general,tx.guns,tx.politics Organization: Texas Instruments Inc X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] References: <37v69t$jlt@zeus.fasttax.com> <38mfjo$koi@crchh518.bnr.ca> <CyC7qz.4pMF@austin.ibm.com> <38p03r$m2h@crchh518.bnr.ca> <38re7o$89t@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <38rnln$38j@crchh572.bnr.ca> <38s00f$t01@crchh518.bnr.ca> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:58:18 GMT Lines: 41