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In article <38mfjo$koi@crchh518.bnr.ca>, tomg@bnr.ca (Tom G) writes:
> In article <38m4vs$pta@crchh572.bnr.ca>, rnichols@bnr.ca (Robin Nichols) writes:
>> WHAT THE HELL IS MY POINT??!!??  My point is that PEOPLE COMMIT
>> CRIMES, NOT GUNS!!! 
> 
> That is how you look at it.  Fine.  Others see crime in the population
> (especially urban areas) as a fire.  Easy access to guns among the
> population is viewed as feeding the flames of crime.  Throw more gas
> in a fire and it goes up.  Throw more weapons into a population and
> crime goes up.  Just look at how the murder rate among urban children 
> has increased over the last few years as their access to guns has.

	Nonsense, the fire was already there, and will continue to be
there when the guns are made illegal (note: not GONE, since they will still
be there).  Listen to gang-bangers talk sometime, there is little value of
life in what they say.  Not of others and often not even their own.  They
would kill you for dissing them with whatever is at hand - gun, knife,
broken bottle, baseball bat, ...  When you believe you have no future, life
has very little value.

	Other crime rides the wave of the War on Drugs.  Much like during the
days of Prohibition, the laboratories have replaced the moonshine stills.
There is more money to be made with todays drugs, though.  You complain about
the corruption of polititians taking thousands of dollars of PAC money?
Imagine the corruption caused by millions of dollars of drug money.  Taking
guns away from law-abiding citizens will not take away from this crime, and
there is plenty of money made to buy whatever armament they want from other
sources that will sell it.

> The same thing happens to countries.  Look at all the empires that
> have come and gone due to their inability to adapt to a changing 
> world.

	And those that forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat
them.  The right to bear arms was not a haphazard addition, but put in to
insure that the ultimate power resided in the PEOPLE.  This right insures 
that the average citizen can protect himself from the tyranny of the 
government and of others.

	You complain about the problems with the increase in crime?  How
are you protected from crime?  The police?  They can't protect you until
after the crime has been committed.  You want more police?  What you suggest
will eventually turn this country into a Police State.

	Put the power in the hands of the people.  Enable law-abiding citizens
to arm and protect themselves, their families, and their neighborhoods.

	If anything, I think the change needs to be with having MORE guns.
The criminals use guns because they know there are fewer people that have
them.  Guns provide a superior position of power.  If most any citizen could be
carrying a gun, there is no advantage of power.

> You don't belive change is needed with respect to guns.  Others do.

	And when only police and criminals have guns, how will you tell
the difference between them?

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