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Article #3434Re: GUN CONTROL (was: Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor
From: Jonathan Haas
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 03:35
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 03:35
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Tom G <tomg@bnr.ca> wrote: > rnichols@bnr.ca (Robin Nichols) writes: >> >> I've been trying to say this the past couple of days ... >> anti-gunners will come up with any "example" to try and >> make their point. Anything. Even though it can be beaten >> down in a New York minute. Most of us "gun-lovers" are open >> to change, but not total banishment or restriction. That's >> all they will accept however. > >What a stereotype. You don't really believe this I am sure. > >What if one says that all pro-gunners only want TOTALLY unrestricted, >undocumented access ALL TYPES of guns? This is about an equal statement >to yours. > >No anti-gunner with common sense honestly believes that you can get rid >of guns over night. Many just want restrictions. Many want to >pursue the goal of significant control to varying degrees. Well, Tom, here's the problem. Most anti-gunners don't want gun control for the sake of gun control... they want gun control for a *purpose*. Specifically, most of them believe it would reduce crime... despite all available evidence. We pro-gunners know differently, and patiently try to explain why gun control is something most criminals favor, and why gun control would not reduce crime. Unfortunately, the anti-gunners invariably don't listen, and eventually throw up their hands and say, "Why are you making such a fuss? It's only a *few* little controls we want, nothing too inconveniencing." And they pass what they want. But then a funny thing happens. See, we pro-gunners are *right*, and lo and behold, the modest gun controls fail to reduce crime. In fact, usually the opposite effect happens... crime goes *up*. Rather than make the connection between the increased gun control and the increased crime, the anti-gunners conclude that the recently-passed gun control legislation wasn't *enough*, and that tighter controls are needed. "We just want a few restrictions" quickly becomes "We just want a few *more* restrictions", which quickly becomes "We need to get rid of all the guns!" *This* is why we're leery when people want "just a few modest controls". As I said in a previous post... review the history of gun control in New York, Illinois, and Great Britain. You'll see what I mean. -- __/\__ Jonathan S. Haas | Jake liked his women the way he liked \ / positron@neosoft.com | his kiwi fruit: sweet yet tart, firm- /_ _\ Finger for PGP 2.3 key | fleshed yet yielding to the touch, and \/ Don't Tread On Me | covered with short brown fuzzy hair.
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