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Article #3446Re: "assault weapons" and their use in crime
From: Fred McCall
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:11
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:11
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In <NEWTNews.19076.782802392.woolfson@woolfson.unicom.net> woolf@unicom.net Eric Woolfson writes: > >/> >In article <NEWTNews.4814.782702587.woolfson@woolfson.unicom.net> Eric >/Woolfson <woolf@unicom.net> writes: >/> > >/> > Well, the prohition-era ban on machine guns reduced their use >/> > in crime to zero. In fact, the Bush ban on imported assault >/> > weapons has resulted in a 45% drop in THEIR use in crime, just >/> > since 1989. But when the ban is being extended to domestic makes >/> > as well, the cry goes up that it "just won't work". >/> > Why not? >/> >/> [This is an example of the sort of disingenuous reasoning that seems >/> to crop up all the time in the gun debate. > > "Disingenuous reasoning?" > Just what is "disingenuous" about the simple reporting > of a statistic? Nothing. However, that's not what you did. You reported an event, a statistic, and then claimed causality between the two. If you chart violent crime against 'prohibition' (of alcohol, drugs, etc.) you find quite a high correlation. If you want to decrease violent crime, legalize drugs. It'll work better than any gun control wet dreams you can imagine. > > AND it leads to a 45% drop in the criminal use of the > banned weapon. Period. 1) You can't prove causality. 2) Such weapons were practically not used in crime in the first place, so a 45% drop is pretty meaingless. [Followups redirected to tx.guns.] -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden --------------------------------------------------------------------------- merlin@annwfn.com -- I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f59be,b376d55d40af3ea7 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59be,public X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,faf138bd852a6ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid104ad1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-26 08:48:11 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!amd!decwrl!netcomsv!annwfn!annwfn!merlin From: merlin@annwfn.com (Fred McCall) Subject: Re: "assault weapons" and their use in crime Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 07:11:45 -0500 Newsgroups: tx.general,dfw.general,austin.general,tx.guns Followup-To: tx.guns Message-ID: <85DA18B49FC@annwfn.com> References: <NEWTNews.19076.782802392.woolfson@woolfson.unicom.net> Organization: Is For People Who Don't Have Real Work X-Newsreader: Newsy 0.23 Lines: 44