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Article #3550Re: GUN CONTROL Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor
From: karl rehn
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:37
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:37
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In article <NEWTNews.27247.782625008.woolfson@woolfson.unicom.net>, Eric Woolfson <woolf@unicom.net> wrote: >> > Florida passes a concealed weapons law, crimes goes down. >> > Morton Grove bans guns altogther, crime goes down. >> > Texas makes no weapons law changes, crime goes down. >> > >> > See a pattern there, do you? Morton Grove isn't a very representative example, and neither is Kennesaw, Georgia, which has mandatory handgun ownership. The stats you posted raise the same questions that looking at gun ownership and gun control in Switzerland, Israel, England, Japan, etc. do. Could it be that is little correlation between guns and violence because the root causes of violence are tied to other factors like poverty, alcohol and drug abuse, mental illness, and our culture's voracious appetite for violence as entertainment? An important statistic that I used before bears re-stating. Dr. Gary Kleck (and other researchers) have tried to determine how often a firearm is used for self-defense each year in situations where no shots are fired and no one is killed. His low estimate based on several studies is around 650,000 times a year - possibly up to 2.5 million. Gun control is a dead-end approach to changing our culture's attitudes about violence. Prohibition didn't stop us from drinking - and alcohol is still a bigger killer every year than guns if you believe the AMA stats. The War on Drugs has cost the US taxpayers an incredible amount, and it hasn't made a dramatic impact in drug usage. There are already 200 million or more guns out there that aren't going away no matter what laws we pass. The Canadians tried to ban tobacco and created a black market, now the US is considering similar increased restrictions. In all cases laws have done little to change human behavior. A more successful approach to stopping violence ought to be modeled on the MADD program, which tried to change public opinion about drinking and driving coupled with increased penalities for DWI. If we really want to save lives we should focus on changing the cultural attitude that violence is "cool" - but also accept that self-defense is a basic right and that firearms ownership is not a public health risk if it is done by responsible law abiding citizens. By the way even HCI admits that the continued decrease in firearms accidents *is* due to the efforts of volunteer instructors and the increased emphasis on training. Karl rehn@arlut.utexas.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103916,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,faf138bd852a6ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid104ad1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-20 12:06:08 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!grumpy.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: krehn@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu (karl rehn) Newsgroups: tx.general,dfw.general,austin.general Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor Date: 20 Oct 1994 13:37:18 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas Lines: 45 Distribution: tx Message-ID: <386dcu$t0n@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu> References: <383otf$mi0@zeus.fasttax.com> <NEWTNews.27247.782625008.woolfson@woolfson.unicom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grumpy.cc.utexas.edu