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Gang friendly neighborhoods, anyone?

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From: Christopher S. Cheyney
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 05:39
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In article <381enk$fn1@utdallas.edu> jspence@utdallas.edu writes:
>The gun control debate just like the abortion debate is absent of 
>anything compromisable. Both sides have dug their trenches and will not 
>listen to the other side. Both are screaming at the tops of their lungs 
>the "well known facts." 
>
>I believe that much of the social change that hase occured the the last 
>150 years was not based on empirical studies, but on emotions and the 
>plight of men, women, and children. I wish to control hand guns and 
>automatic weapons, not because they kill, but because I see no need for 
>the ordinary citizen to possess them. I can't hunt with a hand gun nor a 
>automatic weapon. For protection in the house, I'd prefer a shotgun 
>loaded with rock salt. Only rarely will the blast kill someone. The roar 
>and the visable presents will frighten most intruders. And salt in the 
>open wound will leave memories.


Hallelujah!  I know one better for your family ..... you need to
put a sign up in your front yard that says you're a Gun Free
Household.  Better yet, get your community to go along with it.
A Gun Free Neighborhood.  Now that's something I'd love to see.

Mostly because I want to send the few dope fiends, gang bangers,
and thieves in my neighborhood out to yours.  Isn't Trailways
having cheap bus fares these days?

Besides, who said having guns meant you were hunting or shooting
people with them?  Has it become so politically incorrect to like
going down to the range and expending a couple hundred rounds of
your favorite caliber in your best handgun?

Maybe it's just because you've become a complete psychotic that you
can't think of using guns for anything except harm.  I can't think
of another reason why you'd be so against mechanical objects and
chemical processes that are so simple that the basis upon which
they were developed has existed for about a half millenium.  Maybe
it's because you mistrust some barbarian tendency inside you to go
do harm to people and things who have never harmed you.

I don't know, I'm not an expert on mental disorders, but with signs
of a mania like this, you should really go see a doctor.  See two,
get a second opinion.  This obsession with controlling the lives
of others is getting in the way of your judgement.

Many of us who work daily for a living, obey laws (and sometimes
the speed limits), provide for ourselves and our families, and
do our best to live don't have these overwhelming desires to go
do harm to someone just because we've got a full magazine.  I
doubt that these same people I'm referring to would feel any
more inclined to do harm to someone just because their firearm
holds over 10 cartridges, fires more than one cartridge per
trigger pull, weighs a lot, or makes really big holes.

Moreover, every day, millions of people who own firearms do
NOTHING criminal with them.  Sometimes, they do nothing at
all with them.  It's true.  If it weren't, we'd have to dodge
flak on Mopac and going slow in the left lane, a birthright of
Texans, would invariably be fatal.  :-)

As for digging and peering over trenches, I haven't done that
in a very long time.  Logic and reason doesn't need to hide in
a trench, unless you're in China or Nazi Germany, of course.
For that matter, digging trenches is much like digging holes,
but bigger, and it's always advisable to dig two, for both you
and your enemy .....

I welcome logical and reasoned debate when it presents itself as
exactly that:  as a forum for enlightenment concerning the issues,
grounded in a sound foundation of verifiable facts and logical
assertions, to an end of exploring opposing viewpoints and perhaps
reconciling their differences.  Yet, when it comes to the very
thing you loathe, which is a lack of compromise, high-pitched
whining, and pedantry, we should find the source of these
epithets a paragon of these questionable attributes.

I hope this posting has made you incredibly angry, because within
that anger, there's hope and opportunities:  hope that you will
question your own beliefs and opportunities for you to exercise
thought and reason.  And if it hasn't encouraged these things,
I can only hope for very, very red ears.  :-)  *grin*

Be seeing you, comrade.

chris
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From: cheyney@crl.com (Christopher S. Cheyney)
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Subject: Gang friendly neighborhoods, anyone?
Date: 21 Oct 1994 01:39:20 -0400
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Summary: Know your dope fiend - give him your guns.