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Article #3582Re: GUN CONTROL Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor
From: William W. Hughes
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:55
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:55
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On 18 Oct 1994, Mohit K Goyal wrote:
> Correct. The 2nd amendment clearly states that citizens have the right
> to bear arms for a state militia.
Wrong. To allow for a well-regulated militia is but _one_ of the reasons
that an individual's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I refer you to an article entitled "The Embarassing Second Amendement",
available by anonymous ftp at aphrodite.nectar.cs.cmu.edu. I also refer
you to the Federalist Papers and the records of the original debates on
the Bill of Rights.
>The 2nd amendment was written a long
> time ago, when there was no national army. A number of courts have ruled
> as such.(that the 2nd amend. refers to an armed state militia, not the
> right of every person to have guns) it'll make its way to the top of
> the court system eventually I'm sure. (through appeals and opposing
> decisions)
Incorrect. A small minority of court decisions and scholarly opinions are
supportive of the "collective right" interpretation. The vast majority,
including the Supreme Court, agree with the "individual rights"
interpretation.
> Are you sure about this? Didn't the dallas morning news have a fornt
> page story not too long ago saying that death by shootings were about
> to be the #1 killer in the US? I'm not sure how long ago this article
> appeared.
Incorrect. Deaths-by-gun are way down the list. You are far and away more
likely to be killed in an auto accident, medical mis-adventure, or
pool/beach accident than to be killed by a bullet fired from a gun.
whughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (William Hughes) | In memory of 85 un-charged,
UTSA doesn't agree with me. They're wrong. | un-convicted victims of the U.S.
St. Dismas' Infirmary for the Incurably | government in Waco, Texas -
Informed [_Synners_, Pat Cadigan] | including over 20 children.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,f712f68171682c70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,faf138bd852a6ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid104ad1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-18 14:40:20 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!cs.utexas.edu!pirates.cs.swt.edu!swrinde!ringer.cs.utsa.edu!lonestar.utsa.edu!whughes From: "William W. Hughes" <whughes@lonestar.utsa.edu> Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general,dfw.general Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL Re: I'd just like to say I support Ann for Governor Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 16:55:06 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 42 Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.941018164804.3615D-100000@lonestar.utsa.edu> References: <37v69t$jlt@zeus.fasttax.com> <NEWTNews.30967.782455338.woolfson@thompson.onramp.net> <37vlrr$en1@news.utdallas.edu> <380nai$4lg@bashful.cc.utexas.edu> <380qel$g11@news.utdallas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lonestar.utsa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <380qel$g11@news.utdallas.edu>