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Article #3727Re: I hope it passes
From: S. Smith
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:20
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:20
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:24:08 -0600, "Daniel L. Snyder " <snyds@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: >In article <401d2a37.952687@news.visi.com>, > fredg@visi.com (Fred Grosby) wrote: > >> "Daniel L. Snyder " <snyds@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: >> >> >In article <3jbp1095ogv7cfca73rf9f899mplkfml9s@4ax.com>, >> > S. Smith <scott.smith@visi.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:25:32 -0500, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnm@yahoo.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Richard Steiner" <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:/tDHApHpv28O092yn@visi.com... >> >> >> What percentage of total income do those same people represent? >> >> > >> >> >A bunch. >> >> > >> >> >I didn't check the crossposts, thought I was just posting to fl.general. >> >> > >> >> >"Rich" turns out to be a lot less that I thought. $150K and up is >> >> >considered >> >> >"rich". >> >> >> >> It's certainly not considered "poor" or "middle class". >> >> >> > >> >Its still in the range where most have to work awful hard to get it, >> >which makes the tax rate a disincentive. >> >> The only way it would be a disincentive is if the harder one worked >> and the moer money one made, the less disposable income one had. > >I think that is just what I am saying - yes, one is still taking home >some additional income, but more of it is taxed and less of it is >disposable. > >The couple across the alley are both nurses. They both cut back to 3/4 >time, because when they were full time, the additional income put them >in a higher marginal tax bracket and ate up their earnings. > >They take home about the same in the end by working less. Probably they >could make a few more bucks by working more - but wwhy work more when >the extra hours essentially mean a pay cut. > >Ironically - there is a nursing shortage, I am told. > >These are not "rich" people - they live in a modest home, send their >kids to public school, and have a modest vehicle. It is ludicrous to >tax them as if they were "rich". I'll guarantee that if they are nurses, neither of them is making close to 150k a year, even if they worked full time with a lot of overtime. Registered nurses really aren't paid all that well. My aunt has been a registered nurse most of her life, and has a lot of seniority, and she has never come close to making 150k a year. Even together they would be hard pressed to make more than 150k, combined, as nurses. A quick Web search reveals that the average salary for a registered nurse ranges from 39k to 47k. Even the top bracket of nurse practitioners with seniority, and PHD's, is only around 70k a year, and it's doubtful that both are tenured nurse practitioners with PHD's. http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/nurse-salaries.htm So, they wouldn't really qualify for that >150k bracket that we are using here to determine if someone is "rich" versus "poor" or "middle class".
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